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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] Prevent malloc with size 0
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:23:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204021723.03688.marek.vasut@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFD76CA56B.13A26996-ONC12579D4.00525DB1-C12579D4.005331BE@transmode.se>

Dear Joakim Tjernlund,

> Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote on 2012/04/02 16:42:30:
> > Dear Joakim Tjernlund,
> > 
> > > Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote on 2012/04/02 16:05:13:
> > > > Dear Joakim Tjernlund,
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Grame
> > > > > 
> > > > > Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com> wrote on 2012/04/02 09:17:44:
> > > > > > Hi Joakim,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Apr 2, 2012 4:55 PM, "Joakim Tjernlund"
> > > > > > <joakim.tjernlund@transmode.se>
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Marek,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Marek Vasut
> > > > > > > > <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Dear Mike Frysinger,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >> On Sunday 01 April 2012 20:25:44 Graeme Russ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > b) The code calling malloc(0) is making a perfectly
> > > > > > > > >> > legitimate assumption
> > > > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > > > >> >    based on how glibc handles malloc(0)
> > > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > > >> not really.  POSIX says malloc(0) is implementation
> > > > > > > > >> defined (so it may return a unique address, or it may
> > > > > > > > >> return NULL). no userspace code assuming malloc(0) will
> > > > > > > > >> return non-NULL is correct.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Which is your implementation-defined ;-) But I have to
> > > > > > > > > agree with this one. So my vote is for returning NULL.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Also, no userspace code assuming malloc(0) will return NULL
> > > > > > > > is correct
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Point being, no matter which implementation is chosen, it is
> > > > > > > > up to the caller to not assume that the choice that was made
> > > > > > > > was, in fact, the choice that was made.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I.e. the behaviour of malloc(0) should be able to be changed
> > > > > > > > on a whim with no side-effects
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So I think I should change my vote to returning NULL for one
> > > > > > > > reason and one reason only - It is faster during run-time
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Then u-boot will be incompatible with both glibc and the linux
> > > > > > > kernel, it seems
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Forget aboug other implementations...
> > > > > > What matters is that the fact that the behaviour is undefined and
> > > > > > it is up to the caller to take that into account
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, u-boot borrows code from both kernel and user space so it
> > > > > would make sense if malloc(0) behaved the same. Especially for
> > > > > kernel code which tend to depend on the kernels impl.(just look at
> > > > > Scotts example)
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > to me that any modern impl. of malloc(0) will return a non NULL
> > > > > > > ptr.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It does need to be slower, just return ~0 instead, the kernel
> > > > > > > does something similar: if (!size)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     return ZERO_SIZE_PTR;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That could work, but technically I don't think it complies as it
> > > > > > is not a pointer to allocated memory...
> > > > > 
> > > > > It doesn't not have to be allocated memory, just a ptr != NULL
> > > > > which you can do free() on.
> > > > 
> > > > But kernel has something mapped there to trap these pointers I
> > > > believe.
> > > 
> > > So? That only means that the kernel has extra protection if someone
> > > tries to deference such a ptr. You are not required to do that(nice to
> > > have though) You don have any protection for deferencing NULL either I
> > > think?
> > 
> > Can't GCC track it?
> 
> Track what? NULL ptrs? I don't think so. Possibly when you have a static
> NULL ptr but not in the general case.

Well of course.

> I am getting tired of this discussion now. I am just trying to tell you
> that no sane impl. of malloc() these days return NULL for malloc(0).

And I got your point. Though for u-boot, this would be the best solution 
actually. Anyone who uses memory allocated by malloc(0) is insane.

> Even
> though standards allow it they don't consider malloc(0) an error, glibc
> will not update errno in this case.

There's no errno in uboot I'm aware of ;-)

>  Jocke

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-02 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21  9:24 [U-Boot] [PATCH] Prevent malloc with size 0 Kostaras Nikolaos
2010-10-21 11:25 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 11:32   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 11:45     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 11:51       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 11:56         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 12:02           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 12:54             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 19:51       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-21 21:10         ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-21 21:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2012-03-31 19:59             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 12:25               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-01 14:01                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 14:15                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-01 14:21                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 22:40                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-01 23:45                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 23:52                           ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  0:13                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  0:25                               ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  1:04                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  1:40                                   ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  2:51                                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  3:05                                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  6:39                                         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02  3:12                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02  3:16                                   ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  3:36                                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  3:43                                     ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  4:23                                       ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  4:27                                         ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  6:55                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02  7:17                                         ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  7:40                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 14:05                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 14:26                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 14:42                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 15:08                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 15:23                                                     ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2012-04-02 16:00                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 16:39                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 17:22                                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 18:00                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 18:40                                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 19:14                                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02 21:02                                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 19:23                                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 20:28                                             ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02 20:56                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 20:59                                                 ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02 21:14                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 23:35                                                     ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-03 10:35                                                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-10-16  6:31                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-16  9:22                                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-10-16 10:43                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-16 11:46                                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-10-16 10:43                                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-10-16 22:41                                                             ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  3:10                         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02  3:36                           ` Marek Vasut
2010-10-22  6:10         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:18           ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-22  7:47             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:20           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22  7:37             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:55               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22  8:34                 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 15:18                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22 16:40                     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 17:06                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23  9:14                         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 17:36                 ` Scott Wood
2010-10-23  9:23                   ` Joakim Tjernlund

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