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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Cc: mchehab@infradead.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] v4l2: use unsigned rather than enums in ioctl() structs
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:32:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204112332.24353.remi@remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F85E133.4030404@redhat.com>

Le mercredi 11 avril 2012 22:53:23 Mauro Carvalho Chehab, vous avez écrit :
> > But you have been royally ignoring that rule when it
> > comes to extending existing enumerations:
> The existing enumerations can be extended, by adding new values for unused
> values, otherwise API functionality can't be extended.

Yes. That's why they should be some unsigned type.

> Yet, except
> for a gcc bug (or weird optimize option), I fail to see why this would
> break the ABI.

>From the perspective of the compiler, this is a feature not a bug. In C and 
C++, loading or storing a value in an enumerated variable whereby the value is 
not a member of the enumeration is undefined. In other words, the compiler can 
assume that this does not happen, and optimize it away.

> If this is all about some gcc optimization with newer gcc versions, then
> maybe the solution may be to add some pragmas at the code to disable such
> optimization when compiling the structs with enum's at videodev2.h.

Maybe the Linux kernel could be specifically compiled to prevent GCC from 
range-optimizing enumerations. But as -fno-jump-table only disables one of 
several potential range optimizations, I doubt this is even possible.

Regardless, you cannot require all of Linux userspace to rely on an hypothetic 
non-standard GNU C extension. Thus extending enums remains a silent userspace 
ABI break in any case.

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
http://www.remlab.net/
http://fi.linkedin.com/in/remidenis

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-11 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-05 17:52 [RFC] [PATCH] v4l2: use unsigned rather than enums in ioctl() structs Rémi Denis-Courmont
2012-04-11 17:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-11 18:47   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2012-04-11 19:53     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-11 20:32       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2012-04-12 17:22         ` Nick Bowler
2012-04-11 20:08     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-12  8:04     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2012-04-12 14:55       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-12 15:41         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2012-04-17 17:50           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-04-27  8:24             ` [RFC 1/1] v4l: Implement compat handlers for ioctls containing enums Sakari Ailus
2012-04-13  8:25         ` [RFC] [PATCH] v4l2: use unsigned rather than enums in ioctl() structs James Courtier-Dutton

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