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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Liu, Jinsong" <jinsong.liu@intel.com>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add mcelog support for xen platform
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:11:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120425081125.GA19849@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2aa21o7pk.fsf@firstfloor.org>


* Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org> writes:
> 
> > Because, if you'd hooked into it, just imagine one fine day, when we
> > remove mcelog support, what screaming the xen people will be doing when
> > mcelog doesn't work anymore.
> 
> That's simple. /dev/mcelog is a widely used user space ABI 
> [...]

*COUGH* *SPLUTTER* *LAUGH*.

Thanks for making my day with the self-serving exaggeration of 
the year.

In truth /dev/mcelog is one of the crappiest ABIs Linux has - 
full stop. As a result it's barely used by anyone who can avoid 
it - its main usecase is the utility you wrote for it and some 
enterprise folks who desperately need that data and don't care 
how they get it. The mcelog user-space utility sucks too, 
understandably.

Nevertheless we probably have to keep the ABI around until a 
truly better replacement is out there (the RAS daemon for 
example) and mcelog usage eclipses to obscurity, but by all 
means we want to limit its further spreading /dev/mcelog to 
areas it has not polluted yet ...

Thanks,

	Ingo

      reply	other threads:[~2012-04-25  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-19 13:29 [PATCH 1/3] Add mcelog support for xen platform Liu, Jinsong
2012-04-20 18:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-20 20:00   ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-04-20 20:00     ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-04-21  4:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-21 10:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-23  2:18     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23  6:09       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-23 15:06         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 15:59           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-23 16:23             ` Luck, Tony
2012-04-23 16:54             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 16:17         ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-04-23 15:27     ` Luck, Tony
2012-04-23 15:32       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 16:17         ` Luck, Tony
2012-04-23 16:51           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 15:43       ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-04-23 16:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-23 17:05           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 17:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-23 16:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-23 17:03         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-23 17:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-24  8:27     ` Andi Kleen
2012-04-24  8:27       ` Andi Kleen
2012-04-25  8:11       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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