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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in struct msqid64_ds
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:58:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205182158.59616.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB6C1F7.1010307@zytor.com>

On Friday 18 May 2012, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> On 05/18/2012 02:31 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > 
> > However, in the kernel we always copy the fields one by one for compat
> > mode, even for the architectures that have identical layout between 32 and
> > 64 bit, and at least one libc implementation that I've seen (IIRC uClibc)
> > hardcodes the data structure to be the same as x86, with the padding
> > after the 'long', for all architectures. When I introduced the asm-generic
> > version of this, we had a discussion about whether we should try to use
> > the version with the "correct" padding but in the end decided to just use
> > the x86 version because that is what most big-endian architectures do
> > anyway.
> > 
> 
> Ouch.  Fail.  asm-generic should be about what is the right thing going
> forward.

But why do you think it's wrong the way it is? I see the idea of putting
padding in varying places depending on the endianess as a failed experiment
and defining a structure that is always the same as the logical conclusion
from that, even if it's a bit silly to have any padding in it at all.

Being consistent seems more important here than following the intent
of whoever came up with the concept of the ipc64 data structures
and was consequently ignored by most people after him.

If we really wanted the data structures to be compatible between 32 and
64 bit mode, we'd have to use __u64 here but that would mean having to
change all bits of user code that already rely on the existing x86
compatible layout.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-18 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-17 22:13 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Use __kernel_[u]long_t for x32 user space compatibility H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 01/10] Use __kernel_long_t in struct timex H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-17 22:41     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 22:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 22:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-17 22:55         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 22:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-17 22:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-17 22:57           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 23:51           ` David Daney
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 02/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in struct shm_info H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 03/10] Use __kernel_[u]long_t in linux/resource.h H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 04/10] Use __kernel_long_t in struct msgbuf H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 05/10] Use __kernel_long_t in struct mq_attr H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 06/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in x86 struct semid64_ds H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 07/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in struct shmid64_ds/shminfo64 H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 08/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in struct msqid64_ds H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 23:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-18  0:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-18  0:27           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-18 11:44             ` David Howells
2012-05-18 21:31             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-18 21:41               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18 21:58                 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-05-18 22:08                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-19  7:56                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-19 14:35                       ` Al Viro
2012-05-18  0:29         ` David Daney
2012-05-18  0:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:45             ` David Daney
2012-05-18  0:37           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18 15:03             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-18 15:03               ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-18  3:21     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  3:39       ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18  3:43         ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18  3:47           ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18  3:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-18  3:55           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  3:59             ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18  4:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-18  4:13                 ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18 21:21                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-19 23:47                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-20  1:32                       ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-20  2:08                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18 11:53             ` David Howells
2012-05-18 12:06               ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18  3:56           ` H.J. Lu
2012-05-18 21:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 09/10] Use __kernel_ulong_t in struct ipc64_perm H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 22:13 ` [PATCH 10/10] Use __kernel_[u]long_t in x86-64 struct stat H.J. Lu
2012-05-17 23:07 ` [RFC PATCH 00/10] Use __kernel_[u]long_t for x32 user space compatibility David Daney
2012-05-17 23:07   ` David Daney
2012-05-17 23:07   ` David Daney
2012-05-17 23:11   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-17 23:25     ` David Daney
2012-05-17 23:31       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:19 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-18  0:21   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-18  0:38     ` Mike Frysinger

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