From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Alex Lemberg <Alex.Lemberg@sandisk.com>,
HYOJIN JEONG <syr.jeong@samsung.com>,
Saugata Das <saugata.das@linaro.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Saugata Das <saugata.das@stericsson.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, patches@linaro.org, venkat@linaro.org,
"Luca Porzio (lporzio)" <lporzio@micron.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ext4: Context support
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:28:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201206160728.08687.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201206160714.01830.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
On Saturday 16 June 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 15 June 2012, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > > Oh, that's cool. And I don't think that's hard to do. We could just
> > > keep a flag in the in-core inode indicating whether it is in "large
> > > unit" mode. If it is in large unit mode, we can make the fs writeback
> > > function make sure that we adhere to the restrictions of the large
> > > unit mode, and if at any point we need to do something that might
> > > violate the constraints, the file system would simply close the
> > > context.
> >
> > This is very similar to what was implemented in mballoc preallocation.
> > Large files will get their own preallocation context, while small files
> > would share a context (i.e. an 8MB extent) and be packed densely into
> > this extent to avoid seeking. It wouldn't be unreasonable to just give
> > each mballoc context a different eMMC context.
>
> My understanding is that once we do that, we have already won much more
> than we can by using contexts, because we get perfect write patterns.
> The only thing that contexts would still buy us is that the device has
> more freedom to cache things separately in each context if we write
> with less than superpage alignment.
Sorry, I replied in the wrong order and had not actually read what Ted
said about actually being able to use the large-unit contexts. If we use
large-unit contexts in write-only mode, that would indeed be a way for
the device to get significantly better than if we just do the alignment.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-16 7:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-11 10:46 [PATCH 1/3] block: Context support Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] ext4: " Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-11 11:41 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-11 12:27 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 12:21 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 12:32 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 13:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 14:26 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 14:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 18:19 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 20:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 20:41 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-13 20:00 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 20:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14 2:07 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 16:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-14 16:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-14 17:05 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 19:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-15 9:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 21:30 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16 6:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14 21:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 5:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15 9:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 9:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15 10:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 22:04 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-15 22:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-16 7:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 7:28 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-06-16 7:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 13:49 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16 17:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-18 17:42 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 15:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-20 15:09 ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-20 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-22 13:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-22 14:07 ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: " Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` Saugata Das
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