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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
	jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lenb@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SNB PCI root information
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:34:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120620193438.GB2248@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQWOUZhUQYc66ceG5EMWQ0uO7L3odh0+XwRsLV2Bza2ZpQ@mail.gmail.com>


* Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > As far as I can tell, here's Yinghai's recommendation:  the 
> > user argument should not override BIOS _PXM because if the 
> > BIOS gets the _PXM wrong, the user won't be able to work 
> > around it with the argument, which will force the vendor to 
> > fix the BIOS.
> >
> > I'm not buying it.  The convention that user-supplied 
> > arguments always take precedence is useful, easy to 
> > document, and matches user expectations.  It allows the user 
> > to work around both missing _PXM and incorrect _PXM.
> 
> if the vendor provide _PXM, that _PXM should be right and be 
> trusted.
> 
> if the vendor does not provide _PXM, we can have command line 
> to input it before user can get one updated BIOS from vendor.

So how about an incorrect _PXM, or a slightly inefficient one? 
Why shouldn't it be possible for the user to override it?

I mean, if we create a parameter space that tweaks data then why 
not make it complete and allow *all* firmware data to be 
(optionally) modified, from the kernel boot line?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-20 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-16  1:57 SNB PCI root information Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-16  3:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-16  8:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-16 19:36     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-16 21:56   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-18 22:30     ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-18 23:40       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-19 12:36         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-19 18:20           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-20 17:11             ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-20 17:17             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-20 17:59               ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-20 18:37                 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-20 18:46                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-20 19:28                   ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-20 19:34                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-06-20 20:04                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-20 20:16                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-20 21:21                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-20 23:58                         ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-21  2:37                       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-21  3:50                         ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-21 12:17                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-21 16:22                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-21 18:11                               ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-25 17:54                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-06-20 19:57                     ` Brice Goglin
2012-06-21  2:43                       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-21  5:56                         ` Brice Goglin
2012-06-21 19:24                           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-22  7:14                             ` Brice Goglin
2012-06-22 17:28                               ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-22 20:38                                 ` Brice Goglin
2012-06-22 20:41                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2012-06-25  9:07                                     ` Brice Goglin

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