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From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu, patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu] Make RCU_FAST_NO_HZ respect nohz= boot parameter
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:46:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120706034648.GA27047@leaf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120706002944.GL2522@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 05:29:44PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:02:08PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:37:31PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > If the nohz= boot parameter disables nohz, then RCU_FAST_NO_HZ needs to
> > > also disable itself.  This commit therefore checks for tick_nohz_enabled
> > > being zero, disabling rcu_prepare_for_idle() if so.  This patch assumes
> > > that tick_nohz_enabled can change at runtime: If this is not the case,
> > > then a simpler approach suffices.
> > 
> > Allowing nohz to change at runtime seems like an entirely unnecessary
> > bit of added complexity.  (So does having a boot parameter for it, but
> > that one at least seems easier to handle.)
> 
> I will let representatives from the various distros expound to you on
> their one-binary-only strategy for kernel builds.  ;-)

I'm aware.  However, the subset of people wanting to turn off nohz seems
sufficiently small at this point that I'd *hope* distro kernels could
just always have it turned on. :)

In any case, as I said, the ability to change it at runtime seems like
the primary bit of complexity; the ability to change it at boot time
seems straightforward to handle.

> > What would the patch look like if you can assume nohz will never change
> > at runtime?  And does anyone have a use case for changing nohz at
> > runtime, rather than at boot time?
> 
> It would be a little bit simpler, but would break in very odd and
> difficult-to-debug ways if anyone ever did allow it to change at runtime,
> for example, to accommodate systems subject to varying workloads.

Granted, but it doesn't seem worth preemtively making RCU more
complicated to accomodate a use case that nobody has said they have yet.
:)

- Josh Triplett

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-06  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-05 22:37 [PATCH tip/core/rcu] Make RCU_FAST_NO_HZ respect nohz= boot parameter Paul E. McKenney
2012-07-05 23:02 ` Josh Triplett
2012-07-06  0:29   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-07-06  3:46     ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2012-07-06 12:52       ` Paul E. McKenney

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