From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark Brown Subject: Re: Plumbers: Please split audio topics into separate sessions Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:57:36 +0100 Message-ID: <20120807135735.GG16861@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> References: <50201664.7000804@canonical.com> <50202500.5060607@canonical.com> <20120806222417.GF26698@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> <5020B8AF.3090003@canonical.com> <5020CD16.6020705@canonical.com> <20120807111519.GY16861@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> <5020FB6D.6000503@canonical.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from opensource.wolfsonmicro.com (opensource.wolfsonmicro.com [80.75.67.52]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0136026521F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5020FB6D.6000503@canonical.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: David Henningsson Cc: Takashi Iwai , "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:26:37PM +0200, David Henningsson wrote: > On 08/07/2012 01:15 PM, Mark Brown wrote: > >Isn't this a fairly simple Pulse/distro issue? > PulseAudio - no, because PulseAudio does not control *all* volumes. > They're partially overlapping, but not completely. Oh, that's very surprising - my understanding had been that PulseAudio was essentially just ignoring the configuration it got on startup. Is there any great reason not to subsume the functionality currently done using alsactl? > Distro - well, a distro can do anything they/we want, but > recommendations from upstream will reduce confusion and risk for > distros being bonked by upstream with the "you're doing it wrong, > stupid!" message. What I was suggetsing was that this become our advice for the distros. > >For > >that I guess if Pulse does something the distros would be happy to just > >follow that? > Not all distros use PulseAudio either, but maybe that's beyond the > scope of the actual discussion. I think so, if they're replacing all the software managing the configuration they ought to be comfortable doing their own replacement.