From: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
To: james northrup <northrup.james@gmail.com>
Cc: "Norbert Scheibner" <scno@gmx.net>,
"Jérôme Poulin" <jeromepoulin@gmail.com>,
"Hubert Kario" <hka@qbs.com.pl>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: cross-subvolume cp --reflink
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:20:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120817052011.GA28121@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPkEcwjF6pvqySbKGX6tJXb_4k=Z2BLg4OahuH=r6dsSF5ynDg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:20:00PM -0700, james northrup wrote:
> dunno if this thread is dead, but im inclined to patch in cp --reflink
> to "fdupes" prog. It currently does provide a poor-man's dedupe via
> md5sum and hardlink, or delete.
>
> all the better if the distro-kernels can backport cross-snapshot
> reflinks sooner than later.
So, I'd love for cp --reflink to bring back a deleted VM (huge file) from a
snapshot back to trunk without duplicating it.
But how would fdupes help? I can't hardlink between two snapshots, can I?
gandalfthegreat:/mnt/btrfs_pool1# ln usr_weekly_20120812_00\:02\:01/svn-commit.tmp usr/test
ln: failed to create hard link `usr/test' => `usr_weekly_20120812_00:02:01/svn-commit.tmp': Invalid cross-device link
So, is there anything user space can do without kernel support?
Marc
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Norbert Scheibner <scno@gmx.net> wrote:
> > Am 29.04.2012, 01:53 Uhr, schrieb Hubert Kario <hka@qbs.com.pl>:
> >
> >
> >> On Sunday 01 of April 2012 11:42:23 Jérôme Poulin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Norbert Scheibner <scno@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>> > Some users tested this patch successfully for week,s or months in 2 or
> >>> > 3
> >>> > kernel versions since then, true?
> >>> If this feature must be implented in VFS in another patch, why not
> >>> just activate what works and make the future patch disable it again?
> >>
> >>
> >> Why would (should) it be impleemented in VFS? reflink copy is completely
> >> different from normal copy and hard link.
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't make a VFS issue out of that. That should be another discussion.
> >
> > But:
> >
> >> Subvolumes in btrfs are barriers *only* in btrfs and not visible in VFS.
> >
> >
> > That is just a bug in my opinion, so it should work anyway, but to look at
> > it from VFS point of view is strengthening me in wanting the outstanding
> > patches integrated, as this feature could be supported by VFS in the future.
> >
> >
> >> IMHO it's strictly btrfs business and not supporting reflink copy between
> >> arbitrary directories is a bug.
> >
> >
> > I don't know exactly, but I think ZFS is another candidate for "cp
> > --reflink". For some of the log-structured filesystems this could be usefull
> > too, but I don't know if some of them already supports this or plan to
> > support this in the future.
> >
> > Greetings
> > Norbert
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-17 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-01 15:27 cross-subvolume cp --reflink Norbert Scheibner
2012-04-01 15:30 ` Konstantinos Skarlatos
2012-04-01 16:41 ` Norbert Scheibner
2012-04-01 16:45 ` Konstantinos Skarlatos
2012-04-01 17:07 ` Norbert Scheibner
2012-04-01 17:19 ` Konstantinos Skarlatos
2012-04-01 18:11 ` Norbert Scheibner
2012-04-01 19:42 ` Konstantinos Skarlatos
[not found] ` <4F788EE2.4010105@univie.ac.at>
2012-04-01 18:39 ` Norbert Scheibner
2012-04-01 19:27 ` Konstantinos Skarlatos
2012-04-02 8:29 ` David Sterba
2012-04-01 15:42 ` Jérôme Poulin
2012-04-28 23:53 ` Hubert Kario
2012-04-29 20:05 ` Norbert Scheibner
2012-08-17 4:20 ` james northrup
2012-08-17 5:20 ` Marc MERLIN [this message]
2012-08-19 5:08 ` Mitch Harder
2012-08-19 6:43 ` Marc MERLIN
[not found] ` <CAPkEcwgSZ8umbFeuZ-fQAFAprBubL58eFSf4TQ=Z13ks8i9DOQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-20 18:08 ` Jérôme Poulin
2012-08-21 0:20 ` james northrup
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