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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>
Cc: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] fat: fix ESTALE errors
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:52:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120820205231.GG5779@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKYAXd_VyRg5PYjcYb_JtDeXHeMSRtwwT665hcMcf4WCer7a_Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:19:51PM +0900, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> 2012/8/18, OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>:
> > Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> writes:
> >
> >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 05:41:39AM -0400, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> >>> From: Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>
> >>>
> >>> This patch-set eliminates the client side ESTALE errors when
> >>> a FAT partition exported over NFS has its dentries evicted
> >>> from the cache.
> >>>
> >>> One of the reasons for this error is lack of permanent inode
> >>> numbers on FAT which makes it difficult to construct persistent
> >>> file handles.This can be overcome by using the on-disk location
> >>> of the directory entries (i_pos) as the inode number.
> >>
> >> The hell it can.  You've just made them unstable on rename(2).
> >
> > As more hint. We can't use i_pos as the inode number.
> >
> > E.g. inode is unlinked but is still opened (orphaned inode), the dir
> > entry is free and you can create the inode on same i_pos. After that,
> > both inodes have same i_pos (so inode number).
> >
> > Thanks.
> Hi. Ogawa.
> Thanks for specific explanation. I will check it.

Fo somebody that knows more about fat than me--is there really any hope
of making it play well with nfs?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-20 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-18  9:41 [PATCH 0/4] fat: fix ESTALE errors Namjae Jeon
2012-08-18 13:25 ` Al Viro
2012-08-18 14:09   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-08-20  4:19     ` Namjae Jeon
2012-08-20 20:52       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-08-21  5:19         ` Namjae Jeon
2012-08-21  6:41           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-08-21 10:58             ` Namjae Jeon
2012-08-21 21:11             ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2012-08-22  6:14               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-08-22  6:17                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-08-21 13:20         ` Steven J. Magnani
2012-08-21 18:02           ` Ravishankar
2012-08-20  4:21   ` Namjae Jeon

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