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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:05:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120908160558.GA27476@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120908143718.GA26985@fancy-poultry.org>

On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 04:37:18PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 08.09.2012, Arno Wagner wrote: 
> 
> > Swap can be encrypted with a one-time passphrase. This is more
> > secure as a constant passphrase. It can also be done 
> > non-interactively. The (slight) security decrease when encrypting
> > swap with a static passphrase is that in the future you may still
> > find stuff in there if the passphrase gets compromised.
> 
> When the passphrase gets compromised it'll be of no relevance what
> somebody will find inside the unencrypted swap. All swap content 
> is derived from data of the system itself, which then also will be
> compromised. At least if a global passphrase is used.
> 
> If every partition on a system has its own and unique passphrase, nobody
> would attack swapspace in the first place. There's more to get
> attacking the users /home or the root-partition.

So? You miss the point: If swap can be securely encrypted
independently, this decreases overall system complexity and
hence increase security. For example, swap encryption done
this way will not be subject to any problems with weak 
passwords.

And yes, it is possible that there are things in swap that
cannot be found in the data partitions. Swap encryption 
solves a different problem than data partition encryption.

That other encryption could be insecure on the system is
immaterial, swap can (and should) be solved on its own.
And, as I have pointed out, there are reasons to want swap
encryption even when noting else on the system is encrypted,
so the independent approach needs to be engineered anyways.


Arno
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-08 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-22 12:10 [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt Stayvoid
2012-08-22 12:24 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-22 15:40   ` Stayvoid
2012-08-22 15:52     ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-22 15:54     ` Matthew Monaco
2012-08-22 15:57     ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-08-23  7:28     ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23  9:00 ` Christophe
2012-08-23 11:27   ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 14:12     ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-23 15:10     ` Christophe
2012-08-23 16:07       ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 18:12         ` Milan Broz
2012-08-23 19:34           ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-24 14:01             ` Milan Broz
2012-08-24 14:40               ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-24 15:14                 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-05  4:21                   ` Stayvoid
2012-09-05 13:01                     ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 12:54                       ` Stayvoid
2012-09-06 16:46                         ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 17:53                           ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-06 19:58                             ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-07 16:10                               ` Stayvoid
2012-09-07 19:04                                 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08  2:50                                   ` Stayvoid
2012-09-08  7:01                                     ` Milan Broz
2012-09-09 16:21                                       ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15  0:52                                         ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15  1:09                                           ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-15  1:10                                             ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-20  7:13                                             ` Stayvoid
2012-09-20  9:18                                               ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-21  5:01                                                 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-21 10:01                                                   ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-21 18:14                                                     ` Stayvoid
2012-09-22 22:36                                                       ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25  3:12                                                         ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25  6:31                                                           ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25  7:13                                                             ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 13:58                                                               ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 19:06                                                                 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25 23:54                                                                   ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26  2:12                                                                     ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26  8:23                                                                       ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26  9:24                                                                         ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 10:49                                                                           ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 10:51                                                                             ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 11:13                                                                             ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 23:34                                                                               ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15  6:13                                           ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-08  8:13                               ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 13:26                                 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:37                                   ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 16:05                                     ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2012-09-08 16:39                                       ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 19:36                                         ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:58                                   ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-19  4:15                       ` Two Spirit
2012-09-19  4:52                         ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-19  5:13                           ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-24 14:47               ` Arno Wagner

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