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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] KVM: optimize apic interrupt delivery
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:39:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120911223952.GB28821@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <504F996B.4030307@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:04:59PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 09/11/2012 08:13 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Is there a risk of DOS if RCU is delayed while
> > > lots of memory is queued up in this way?
> > > If yes is this a generic problem with kfree_rcu
> > > that should be addressed in core kernel?
> >
> > There is indeed a risk.  The kfree_rcu() implementation cannot really
> > decide what to do here, especially given that it is callable with irqs
> > disabled.
> >
> > The usual approach is to keep a per-CPU counter and count it down from
> > some number for each kfree_rcu().  When it reaches zero, invoke
> > synchronize_rcu() as well as kfree_rcu(), and then reset it to the
> > "some number" mentioned above.
> >
> > In theory, I could create an API that did this.  In practice, I have no
> > idea how to choose the number -- much depends on the size of the object
> > being freed, for example.
> 
> Perhaps approach it from the other direction?  If we are under memory
> pressure, start synchronize_rcu()ing, much like the shrinker operates.
> 

Tricky ...

For now, how about we call synchronize_rcu_expedited in kvm and call it a day?
Also has an advantage that apic map is guaranteed to be in sync
with guest - while it seems that it's already correct as is,
synchronous operation is way simpler.

We can add a tracepoint so that we can detect it if this starts
happening a lot for some guest.

> 
> -- 
> I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
> signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-11 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-11 13:02 [PATCHv2] KVM: optimize apic interrupt delivery Gleb Natapov
2012-09-11 13:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 14:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-11 14:46   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-11 15:51     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 14:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-11 17:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-11 20:04     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 22:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-09-12  7:41         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-11 22:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-12  1:03       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-12  7:45         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-12 12:34           ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]             ` <505081E9.8080505@redhat.com>
2012-09-12 12:44               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 16:24                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 19:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27  8:00                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27 17:06                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28  8:55                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-12-05 23:00                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-06 11:32                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 20:07                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-09-12 12:17     ` Gleb Natapov

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