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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Zhi Yong Wu <zwu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxram@linux.vnet.ibm.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, tytso@mit.edu, marco.stornelli@gmail.com,
	stroetmann@ontolinux.com, diegocg@gmail.com, chris@csamuel.org,
	Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 05/10] vfs: introduce one hash table
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:57:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120927065726.GP15236@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEH94Liftb9zhTt=5TFUOay=aAQ+MA6YXsQWWt0Kn+F8U2MJNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:23:16PM +0800, Zhi Yong Wu wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 08:56:30PM +0800, zwu.kernel@gmail.com wrote:
> >> From: Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >>
> >>   Adds a hash table structure which contains
> >> a lot of hash list and is used to efficiently
> >> look up the data temperature of a file or its
> >> ranges.
> >>   In each hash list of hash table, the hash node
> >> will keep track of temperature info.
> >
> > So, let me see if I've got the relationship straight:
> >
> > - sb->s_hot_info.hot_inode_tree indexes hot_inode_items, one per inode
> >
> > - hot_inode_item contains access frequency data for that inode
> >
> > - hot_inode_item holds a heat hash node to index the access
> >   frequency data for that inode
> >
> > - hot_inode_item.hot_range_tree indexes hot_range_items for that inode
> >
> > - hot_range_item contains access frequency data for that range
> >
> > - hot_range_item holds a heat hash node to index the access
> >   frequency data for that range
> >
> > - sb->s_hot_info.heat_inode_hl indexes per-inode heat hash nodes
> >
> > - sb->s_hot_info.heat_range_hl indexes per-range heat hash nodes
> Correct.
> >
> > How about some ascii art? :) Just looking at the hot inode item case
> > (the range item case is the same pattern, though), we have:
> >
> >
> > heat_inode_hl           hot_inode_tree
> >     |                         |
> >     |                         V
> >     |           +-------hot_inode_item-------+
> > +---+           |       frequency data       |
> > |               V            ^               V
> > | ...<--hot_inode_item-->... |    ...<--hot_inode_item-->....
> > |       frequency data       |          frequency data
> > |               ^            |               ^
> > |               |            |               |
> > |               |            |               |
> > +------>hot_hash_node-->hot_hash_node-->hot_hash_node-->....
> Great, can we put them in hot_tracking.txt in Documentation?
> >
> >
> > There's no actual data stored in the hot_hash_node, just pointer
> > back to the frequency data, a hlist_node and a pointer to the
> > hashlist head. IOWs, I agree with Ram that this does not need to
> > exist and just embedding a hlist_node inside the hot_inode_item is
> > all that is needed. i.e:
> >
> > heat_inode_hl           hot_inode_tree
> >     |                         |
> >     |                         V
> >     |           +-------hot_inode_item-------+
> >     |           |       frequency data       |
> > +---+           |       hlist_node           |
> > |               V            ^ |             V
> > | ...<--hot_inode_item-->... | |  ...<--hot_inode_item-->....
> > |       frequency data       | |        frequency data
> > +------>hlist_node-----------+ +------->hlist_node--->.....
> >
> > There's no need for separate allocations, initialisations, locks and
> > reference counting - all that is already in the hot_inode_item. The
> > items have the same lifecycle limitations - a hot_hash_node must be
> > torn down before the frequency data it points to is freed. Finally,
> > there's no difference in how you move it between lists.
> How will you know if one hot_inode_item should be moved between lists
> when its freq data is changed?

Record the current temperature in the frequency data, and if it
changes, change the list it is on.

> > Indeed, calling it a hash is wrong - there's not hashing at all
> > - it keeping an array of list where each entry corresponds to a
> > specific temperature. It is a *heat map*, not a hash list. i.e.
> > inode_heat_map, not heat_inode_hl. HEAT_MAP_SIZE, not HASH_SIZE.
> OK.
> >
> > As it is, there aren't any users of the heat maps that are generated
> > in this patch set - it's not even exported to userspace or to
> > debugfs, so I'm not sure how it will be used yet. How are these heat
> > maps going to be used by filesystems, Zhi?
> In hot_hash_calc_temperature(), you can see that one hot_inode or
> hot_range's freq data will be distilled into one temperature value,
> then it will be inserted to the heat map based on its temperature.
> When the file corresponding to the inode or range got hotter or cold,
> its location will be changed in the heat map based on its new
> temperature in hot_hash_update_hash_table().

Yes, but a hot_inode_item or hot_range_item can only have one
location in the heat map, right? So it doesn't need external
structure to point to the frequency data to track this....

> And the user will retrieve those freq data and temperature info via
> debugfs or ioctl interfaces.

Right - but that data is only extracted after an initial
hot_inode_tree lookup - The heat map itself is never directly used
for lookups. If it's not used for lookups based on temperature, why
is it needed?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-27  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-23 12:56 [RFC v2 00/10] vfs: hot data tracking zwu.kernel
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 01/10] vfs: introduce private rb structures zwu.kernel
2012-09-25  7:37   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-25  7:57     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-25  8:00     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-25 10:20   ` Ram Pai
2012-09-26  3:20     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 02/10] vfs: add support for updating access frequency zwu.kernel
2012-09-25  9:17   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  2:19       ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  2:30         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 03/10] vfs: add one new mount option '-o hottrack' zwu.kernel
2012-09-25  9:28   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-26  2:56     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  2:20       ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  2:30         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  5:25     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  7:05       ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  7:21         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 04/10] vfs: add init and exit support zwu.kernel
2012-09-27  2:27   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 05/10] vfs: introduce one hash table zwu.kernel
2012-09-25  9:54   ` Ram Pai
2012-09-26  4:08     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  3:43   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  6:23     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  6:57       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2012-09-27  7:10         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 06/10] vfs: enable hot data tracking zwu.kernel
2012-09-27  3:54   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  6:28     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  6:59       ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  7:12         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 07/10] vfs: fork one kthread to update data temperature zwu.kernel
2012-09-27  4:03   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  6:54     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-27  7:01       ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-27  7:19         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 08/10] vfs: add 3 new ioctl interfaces zwu.kernel
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 09/10] vfs: add debugfs support zwu.kernel
2012-09-23 12:56 ` [RFC v2 10/10] vfs: add documentation zwu.kernel

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