From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Misc PCI cleanups
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:37:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121011103718.GC5552@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1349897512.2759.331.camel@ul30vt.home>
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:31:52PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 09:09 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 2012-10-08 23:11, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 23:40 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 01:27:33PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:15 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:58:32AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > >>>>> Michael, Jan,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any comments on these? I'd like to make the PCI changes before I update
> > >>>>> vfio-pci to make use of the new resampling irqfd in kvm. We don't have
> > >>>>> anyone officially listed as maintainer of pci-assign since it's been
> > >>>>> moved to qemu. I could include the pci-assign patches in my tree if you
> > >>>>> prefer. Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Alex
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Patches themselves look fine, but I'd like to
> > >>>> better understand why do we want the INTx fallback.
> > >>>> Isn't it easier to add intx routing support?
> > >>>
> > >>> vfio-pci can work with or without intx routing support. Its presence is
> > >>> just one requirement to enable kvm accelerated intx support. Regardless
> > >>> of whether it's easy or hard to implement intx routing in a given
> > >>> chipset, I currently can't probe for it and make useful decisions about
> > >>> whether or not to enable kvm support without potentially hitting an
> > >>> assert. It's arguable how important intx acceleration is for specific
> > >>> applications, so while I'd like all chipsets to implement it, I don't
> > >>> know that it should be a gating factor to chipset integration. Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Alex
> > >>
> > >> Yes but there's nothing kvm specific in the routing API,
> > >> and IIRC it actually works fine without kvm.
> > >
> > > Correct, but intx routing isn't very useful without kvm.
> >
> > Right now: yes. Long-term: no. The concept in general is also required
> > for decoupling I/O paths lock-wise from our main thread. We need to
> > explore the IRQ path and cache it in order to avoid taking lots of locks
> > on each delivery, possibly even the BQL. But we will likely need
> > something smarter at that point, i.e. something PCI-independent.
>
> That sounds great long term, but in the interim I think this trivial
> extension to the API is more than justified. I hope that it can go in
> soon so we can get vfio-pci kvm intx acceleration in before freeze
> deadlines get much closer. Thanks,
>
> Alex
Simply reorder the patches:
1. add vfio acceleration with no fallback
2. add way for intx routing to fail
3. add vfio fallback if intx routing fails
Then we can apply 1 and argue about the need for 2/3
afterwards.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-02 19:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Misc PCI cleanups Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] pci: Add INTx no-route option Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] pci-assign: Add support for no-route Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02 20:12 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-03 9:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02 19:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] pci: Helper function for testing if an INTx route changed Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] pci-assign: Use pci_intx_route_changed() Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] msi: Add msi_get_message() Alex Williamson
2012-10-02 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] pci-assign: Use msi_get_message() Alex Williamson
2012-10-08 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Misc PCI cleanups Alex Williamson
2012-10-08 16:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-08 20:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-08 19:27 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-08 21:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-08 21:11 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-08 21:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-08 22:09 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-08 22:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-08 23:54 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-11 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-09 7:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-10 19:31 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-11 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-10-11 13:38 ` Alex Williamson
2012-10-11 13:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 14:10 ` Alex Williamson
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