From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: restore correct batch limiting
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:35:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121018163525.GJ2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1350576628.32642.14.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 06:10:28PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 08:25 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 02:44:50PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Having 2 billions callbacks on one cpu would be problematic, I really
> > > hope nobody relies on this ;)
> >
> > Fair point! ;-)
> >
> > But just making everything long makes it quite easy to analyze.
> >
> > > I guess the 10/infinity switch should be smarter.
> > >
> > > something like the following maybe :
> > >
> > > rdp->blimit = max(blimit, rdp->qlen >> 6);
> > >
> > > (if queue is big, dont wait to hit 10000 before allowing more items to
> > > be handled per round)
> >
> > The -rt guys would not be amused. :-(
> >
> > But for non-realtime use, increasing rcutree.blimit either at boot or
> > via sysfs could make sense. It is also likely that I will move callback
> > processing to a kthread at some point, which would allow some additional
> > flexibility.
> >
>
> Ah, I now realize the loop can exceed blimit, but is it true for BH
> variant ? (Not really a problem for 3.6/3.7 kernels, but prior ones)
Yep, applies to all the RCU flavors.
> if (++count >= bl &&
> (need_resched() ||
> (!is_idle_task(current) && !rcu_is_callbacks_kthread())))
> break;
>
> I wonder if ksoftirqd should be included as well...
This would be safe only if ksoftirqd could be guaranteed to be the
lowest-priority process on the given CPU, which I do not believe to be
the case. The problem is that if ksoftirqd is not the lowest-priority
process on the given CPU, we can seriously delay that other process
for no good reason. The fact that ksoftirqd does local_bh_disable()
means that the scheduler cannot preempt it, either. :-(
> > Furthermore, it would be easy to have one default for non-rt and another
> > for -rt, if that would help.
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> > >
> > > Please dont forget stable teams. (3.2 + )
> >
> > Added both, please see below!
>
> Seems fine to me, thanks Paul !
Thank you for everything on this one!
Thanx, Paul
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-18 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-17 7:14 [PATCH] rcu: restore correct batch limiting Eric Dumazet
2012-10-17 13:18 ` Hillf Danton
2012-10-17 14:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-18 11:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-18 12:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-18 15:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-18 16:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-18 16:35 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
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