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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix vcpu->mmio_fragments overflow
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:58:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121022125854.GT29310@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50854232.8090309@siemens.com>

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 02:55:14PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-10-22 14:53, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 02:45:37PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> On 2012-10-22 14:18, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>> On 10/22/2012 01:45 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Indeed. git pull, recheck and call for kvm_flush_coalesced_mmio_buffer()
> >>>>> is gone. So this will break new userspace, not old. By global you mean
> >>>>> shared between devices (or memory regions)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. We only have a single ring per VM, so we cannot flush multi-second
> >>>> VGA access separately from other devices. In theory solvable by
> >>>> introducing per-region rings that can be driven separately.
> >>>
> >>> But in practice unneeded.  Real time VMs can disable coalescing and not
> >>> use planar VGA modes.
> >>
> >> A) At least right now, we do not differentiate between the VGA modes and
> >> if flushing is needed. So that device is generally taboo for RT cores of
> >> the VM.
> >> B) We need to disable coalescing in E1000 as well - if we want to use
> >> that model.
> >> C) Gleb seems to propose using coalescing far beyond those two use cases.
> >>
> > Since the userspace change is needed the idea is dead, but if we could
> > implement it I do not see how it can hurt the latency if it would be the
> > only mechanism to use coalesced mmio buffer. Checking that the ring buffer
> > is empty is cheap and if it is not empty it means that kernel just saved
> > you a lot of 8 bytes exists so even after iterating over all the entries there
> > you still saved a lot of time.
> 
> When taking an exit for A, I'm not interesting in flushing stuff for B
> unless I have a dependency. Thus, buffers would have to be per device
> before extending their use.
> 
Buts this is not what will happen (in the absence of other users of
coalesced mmio). What will happen is instead of taking 200 exists for B
you will take 1 exit for B.

--
			Gleb.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-22 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-19  7:37 [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix vcpu->mmio_fragments overflow Xiao Guangrong
2012-10-19  7:39 ` [PATCH] emulator test: add "rep ins" mmio access test Xiao Guangrong
2012-11-01  0:05   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-22  9:16 ` [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix vcpu->mmio_fragments overflow Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 11:09   ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-10-22 11:23     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 11:35       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 11:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 11:45           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 12:18             ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 12:45               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 12:53                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 12:55                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 12:58                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 13:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 13:08                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 13:25                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 14:00                             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 14:23                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 15:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 12:58                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-10-22 12:55                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 13:01                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 13:02                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 13:05                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-22 12:56                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 13:58 ` Avi Kivity

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