From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.saout.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.saout.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id goos3DzfkR4x for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:07:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from v4.tansi.org (ns.km33513-03.keymachine.de [87.118.94.3]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:07:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gatewagner.dyndns.org (84-72-142-78.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.142.78]) by v4.tansi.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7F2D71404001 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:07:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:07:04 +0200 From: Arno Wagner Message-ID: <20121023190703.GA20937@tansi.org> References: <20121023054442.z8b6uyz6g0c0s0gg@legacy.mxes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121023054442.z8b6uyz6g0c0s0gg@legacy.mxes.net> Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] contribution offer and questions - LUKS system encryption with detached header List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: dm-crypt@saout.de On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:44:42AM -0400, Jim F wrote: > > Thanks for your reply, Arno. No problem. > >The reason there are no such scripts in the cryptsetup package > >is that it would not make sense to put them in there, as they > >would be completely different for different distributions. > > Perhaps we're using the word 'package' differently. If one executes > "dpkg -L cryptsetup" on Debian, Ubuntu or Mint, one does see the > associated init crypto scripts. I was saying I don't see them in the Yes, but that would be the _Debian_ cryptsetup package which is derived by the Debian cryptsetup package maintainer from the proper cryptsetup package... > source code at http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup ...which is maintained here. > I understand now that the scripts can be specific to the > distribution. But I've also observed that they're identical or > virtually so for Debian, Ubuntu & Mint for each release of > cryptsetup. For example, the cryptroot scripts are exactly the same > for deb-test-121015 & kubuntu 12.10. FWIW, they're both at > cryptsetup 1.4.3. That is actually a good idea, but they are created by the Debian project cryptsetup maintainer, not here. > One thing I still don't understand is where the scripts are for > (say) cryptsetup 1.5.1. I haven't seen a distribution for that > version. Does that mean they don't exist yet? I've seen that the Yes. > scripts may need to be modified as functionality is added to > cryptsetup, e.g. --allow-discards. So while my use of cryptsetup > 1.4.1 with my modified 1.1.3 scripts worked for my purpose, that > system I created doesn't support discards/TRIM requests even though > the option is in cryptsetup. Accordingly, the scripts can also be > specific to the cryptsetup version. That might suggest that someone > is enhancing the scripts as features are added to cryptsetup. > > Regarding your recommendations, I'll make the changes to the 1.4.3 > scripts and submit them to Debian. Can someone tell me how to do > that? On the Debian project website, search for the cryptsetup package in the package search. The Debian maintainer and development team addresses for cryptsetup should be there. Just contact them. > I looked at debian.org and see maybe hundreds of mailing lists > but nothing obvious about the submission process if it's not a bug. > > Regarding Mint, I thought it is based on Debian via Ubuntu. It looks > like I would use the "idea module" of the Mint web site. But is > there an advantage to submitting to Mint, too, since as you say, it > should eventually propagate down? I don't think so. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., Email: arno@wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision. -- Bertrand Russell