From: Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] vmevent: A bit reworked pressure attribute + docs + man page
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:53:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121025085309.GC15767@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGsjTe13WjY_Q=BLBELwQXOjuwo7PiEKwONHUfR4mQmig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Hi Pekka,
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 09:44:52AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Your description doesn't include why we need new vmevent_fd(2).
> > Of course, it's very flexible and potential to add new VM knob easily but
> > the thing we is about to use now is only VMEVENT_ATTR_PRESSURE.
> > Is there any other use cases for swap or free? or potential user?
> > Adding vmevent_fd without them is rather overkill.
>
> What ABI would you use instead?
I thought /dev/some_knob like mem_notify and epoll is enough but please keep in mind
that I'm not against vmevent_fd strongly. My point is that description should include
explain about why other candidate is not good or why vmevent_fd is better.
(But at least, I don't like vmevent timer polling still and I hope we use it
as last resort once we can find another)
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > I don't object but we need rationale for adding new system call which should
> > be maintained forever once we add it.
>
> Agreed.
>
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] vmevent: A bit reworked pressure attribute + docs + man page
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:53:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121025085309.GC15767@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGsjTe13WjY_Q=BLBELwQXOjuwo7PiEKwONHUfR4mQmig@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Pekka,
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 09:44:52AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Your description doesn't include why we need new vmevent_fd(2).
> > Of course, it's very flexible and potential to add new VM knob easily but
> > the thing we is about to use now is only VMEVENT_ATTR_PRESSURE.
> > Is there any other use cases for swap or free? or potential user?
> > Adding vmevent_fd without them is rather overkill.
>
> What ABI would you use instead?
I thought /dev/some_knob like mem_notify and epoll is enough but please keep in mind
that I'm not against vmevent_fd strongly. My point is that description should include
explain about why other candidate is not good or why vmevent_fd is better.
(But at least, I don't like vmevent timer polling still and I hope we use it
as last resort once we can find another)
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > I don't object but we need rationale for adding new system call which should
> > be maintained forever once we add it.
>
> Agreed.
>
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] vmevent: A bit reworked pressure attribute + docs + man page
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:53:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121025085309.GC15767@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGsjTe13WjY_Q=BLBELwQXOjuwo7PiEKwONHUfR4mQmig@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Pekka,
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 09:44:52AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Your description doesn't include why we need new vmevent_fd(2).
> > Of course, it's very flexible and potential to add new VM knob easily but
> > the thing we is about to use now is only VMEVENT_ATTR_PRESSURE.
> > Is there any other use cases for swap or free? or potential user?
> > Adding vmevent_fd without them is rather overkill.
>
> What ABI would you use instead?
I thought /dev/some_knob like mem_notify and epoll is enough but please keep in mind
that I'm not against vmevent_fd strongly. My point is that description should include
explain about why other candidate is not good or why vmevent_fd is better.
(But at least, I don't like vmevent timer polling still and I hope we use it
as last resort once we can find another)
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > I don't object but we need rationale for adding new system call which should
> > be maintained forever once we add it.
>
> Agreed.
>
> --
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-25 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-22 11:19 [RFC v2 0/2] vmevent: A bit reworked pressure attribute + docs + man page Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:19 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:19 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:21 ` [RFC 1/2] vmevent: Implement pressure attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-24 9:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-24 9:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-24 9:03 ` Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1210241159590.13035-XMdqyYT0w3YmYvmMESoHnA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 2:23 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 2:23 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 2:23 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 8:38 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 8:38 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-22 11:22 ` [RFC 2/2] man-pages: Add man page for vmevent_fd(2) Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-22 11:22 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 6:40 ` [RFC v2 0/2] vmevent: A bit reworked pressure attribute + docs + man page Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 6:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-25 6:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-25 6:44 ` Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <CAOJsxLGsjTe13WjY_Q=BLBELwQXOjuwo7PiEKwONHUfR4mQmig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 8:53 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-10-25 8:53 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 8:53 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-25 9:08 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 9:08 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 9:23 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-25 9:23 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-26 2:37 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-26 2:37 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-26 2:37 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-27 1:02 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-27 1:02 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-10-27 1:02 ` Anton Vorontsov
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