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From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>
To: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>
Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] command: introduce abi version
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:00:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029170010.GA3257@sig21.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029160513.GA29599@game.jcrosoft.org>

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 05:05:13PM +0100, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> On 10:56 Mon 29 Oct     , Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> > 
> > I wonder how this will work in practice.  If I use a simple
> > /env/bin/init script and someone makes changes to a command
> > which isn't used by my /env/bin/init, will it still cause
> > my environment to be detected as incompatible?
> > 
> > Maybe it would be a good idea to give the user control
> > over when to change COMMAND_ABI_VERSION by putting it into menuconfig?
> > 
> > Either way I guess it means the default environment's init script
> > would need to implement automatic update to not lose important  settings.
> here you loose nothing we just load defaulenv then you load the old one if you
> one the code does not save the defaultenv automatlically

Well, the whole point of having an environment is that the
user can save a customized version.  So by definition
falling back to the default means you are going to annoy seme users
(even though it's usually not difficult to restore the customizations).

> > Bottom line: It's much better to not make incompatible ABI changes _ever_.
> I disagree here sometimes we do need as the ABI is really not convinian or
> POSIX or like this linux one

Well, if an ABI or API is fundamentally broken it might be
a good idea to fix it.  But it should be well justified.
And COMMAND_ABI_VERSION seems to make the issue worse and not
better, by forcing an incompatibility where there actually
might be none.

Johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-29 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:03 [PATCH 0/3] introduce command abi version Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-22 16:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] command: introduce " Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-22 16:07   ` [PATCH 2/3] envfs: add command_abi_version support Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-23  8:59     ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-23 10:20       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-23 12:56         ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-23 13:27           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-22 16:07   ` [PATCH 3/3] environment: detect command_abi_version Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-29  8:50   ` [PATCH 1/3] command: introduce abi version Sascha Hauer
2012-10-29  9:56     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2012-10-29 10:31       ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-29 16:05       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-29 17:00         ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2012-10-29 18:05           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-23  8:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] introduce command " Sascha Hauer
2012-10-23 10:28   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD

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