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From: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
To: Heiko Voigt <hvoigt@hvoigt.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Phil Hord <phil.hord@gmail.com>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	Nahor <nahor.j+gmane@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:20:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121117192026.GI22234@odin.tremily.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121117153007.GB7695@book.hvoigt.net> <20121117150441.GA7695@book.hvoigt.net>

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On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 04:04:42PM +0100, Heiko Voigt wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 01:44:37PM -0500, W. Trevor King wrote:
> > >   $ git submodule pull-branch
> > 
> > I think "floating submodules" is a misleading name for this feature
> > though, since the checkout SHA is explicitly specified.  We're just
> > making it more convenient to explicitly update the SHA.  How about
> > "tracking submodules"?
> 
> Until now we have always called this workflow floating submodules. I
> imaging since the submodule floats to the newest revision (whatever the
> user chooses that to be) instead of staying at the recorded sha1.
> 
> "tracking submodules" sounds strange to me since the term tracked in git
> is mainly used in combination with exact recorded history (e.g. tracking
> branch). Since it is about *not* checking out the recorded sha1 but
> something that can change I think that could cause confusion.
> 
> I think floating is a more unambiguous term and already known on the
> list.

I had been getting the impression that floating submodules would
automatically update without explicit user intervention.  After
re-reading your initial floating submodules post, it looks like we do
match up after the mapping:

  Git        Heiko               Trevor
  ---------  -----------------   -------------
  update     update --checkout   update
             update              update --pull

So I'll go back to "floating" ;).

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 04:30:07PM +0100, Heiko Voigt wrote:
> > >  (2) "git diff [$path]" and friends in the superproject compares the
> > >      HEAD of the checkout of the submodule at $path with the tip of
> > >      the branch named by submodule.$name.branch in .gitmodules of
> > >      the superproject, instead of the commit that is recorded in the
> > >      index of the superproject.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm.  ???git diff??? compares the working tree with the local HEAD (just a
> > SHA for submodules), so I don't think it should care about the status
> > of a remote branch.  This sounds like you want something like:
> > 
> >   $ git submodule foreach 'git diff origin/$submodule_branch'
> > 
> > Perhaps this is enough motivation for keeping $submodule_* exports?
> > 
> > > and the option were called something like "--follow-branch=$branch",
> > > ???
> 
> I am not sure if hiding changes to the recorded SHA1 from the user is
> such a useful thing. In the first step I would like it if it was kept
> simple and only the submodule update machinery learned to follow a
> branch. If that results in local changes that should be shown. The user
> is still in charge of recording the updated SHA1 in his commit.

I understand what you're warning against here, or what it has to do
with "git diff".

> From what I have heard of projects using this: They usually still have
> something that records the SHA1s on a regular basis. Thinking further,
> why not record them in git? We could add an option to update which
> creates such a commit.

I think it's best to have users craft their own commit messages
explaining why the branch was updated.  That said, an auto-generated
hint (a la "git merge") would probably be a useful extra feature.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-17 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:34 [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
     [not found] ` <CABURp0pqg7XC6makK2OcundMabV9AtcBNGNK6Q0TMZfJbt3anw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-22 22:55   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 18:12     ` Phil Hord
2012-10-25  1:12       ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 13:37         ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 19:16 ` Nahor
2012-10-23 19:44   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 20:44     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 21:57       ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 19:15         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-25  0:53           ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 20:48             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-28 21:16               ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 21:59               ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-28 22:34                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29  5:34                   ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 10:45                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 10:58                       ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 11:29                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 11:43                           ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 17:38                             ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 21:36                               ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 22:21                                 ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 22:27                                   ` Jeff King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                       ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  7:34                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-09 16:29                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:02                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:04                                               ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 19:20                                                 ` W. Trevor King [this message]
2012-11-17 21:31                                                   ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 22:00                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  0:49                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20  1:16                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  5:39                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20 12:19                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20 19:52                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-23 15:55                                                             ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-23 16:23                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 16:30                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 17:54                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 2/4] git-submodule init: Record submodule.<name>.branch in repository config W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:19                                                                       ` Jens Lehmann
2012-11-28  0:40                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 17:53                                                                         ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 18:17                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 23:52                                                                           ` Phil Hord
2012-12-01 12:48                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 15:42                                                                               ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 15:56                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:37                                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:45                                                                               ` [PATCH] submodule: add 'deinit' command Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02  2:00                                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02 19:55                                                                                   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-03  7:58                                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04 21:48                                                                                       ` [PATCH v2] " Jens Lehmann
2012-12-04 23:06                                                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:08                                                                                         ` Michael J Gruber
2012-12-12 17:22                                                                                           ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 19:32                                                                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:25                                                                                               ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 22:34                                                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:09                                                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 23:35                                                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-13  0:28                                                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-13 15:47                                                                                                 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-12-01 15:38                                                                           ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:30                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 17:25                                                                               ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 17:49                                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 18:04                                                                                   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 18:16                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:09                                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 20:29                                                                                         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02 21:11                                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:54                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 15:38                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git-submodule update: Add --branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:51                                                                       ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 20:21                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:31                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:04                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 19:16                                                                       ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:01                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 21:18                                                                     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:28                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28  2:42                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 18:51                                                                         ` Phil Hord
2012-11-23 17:24                                                               ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option Sascha Cunz
2012-11-23 16:03                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 13:09                                             ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option (summary) W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 16:53                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:12                                                   ` [RFC] git-submodule update: Add --commit option W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:21                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:27                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 19:13                                                   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-30  1:11                                                     ` Phil Hord
2012-11-30  3:27                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 19:30                                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04  0:17                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 17:43                                                                     ` Phil Hord
2012-12-12 19:54                                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:02                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                           ` [PATCH v8 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion wking
2012-12-21  8:20                                                                             ` Heiko Voigt
2012-12-21 11:04                                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                           ` [PATCH v8 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                           ` [PATCH v8 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules wking
2012-12-19 17:43                                                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-21  8:18                                                                           ` [PATCH v8 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Heiko Voigt
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-12  5:42                                                                   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:24                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 18:19                                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:44                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 16:46                                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-03 18:15                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 18:38                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 20:29                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02  3:17                                                           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] submodule update: add submodule.<name>.remote config option W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:32                                                         ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Jens Lehmann
2012-11-10 18:44                                           ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-11-11 10:33                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 15:00                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:30                                                 ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 19:42                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 20:08                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                         ` <20121109104607.GC4406@ftbfs.org>
2012-11-10 19:11                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                       ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-submodule foreach: export .gitmodules settings as variables W. Trevor King
2012-11-09 16:45                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:21                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                       ` [PATCH v3 3/3] git-submodule: Motivate --record with an example use case W. Trevor King
2012-10-25 22:14         ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 14:00           ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:45     ` [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules Nahor
2012-10-23 20:36   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-23 20:55     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 22:02     ` Nahor
2012-10-24 19:10       ` Jens Lehmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-28 18:28 [PATCH] submodule update: document exisiting -r form for --rebase W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano

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