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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:53:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121125095356.GA22279@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s18MzmWRNRiRjL6hvpK1cm=S-97fB2ep-_0RAhnfs5cvA@mail.gmail.com>

Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
> If your friends jump off a bridge, would you? Yes, using python has
> served them well, but as opposed to what? Other scripting languages? I
> don't think so.

The competition that Python won was *precisely* against other scripting
languages, notably shell and Perl.  Both used to be much more heavily
used in system scripting than they are now.

> What if my extension only supports python 2.7? Or what if my extension
> wants to support 2.0?

I propose that if 2.6 can't support it, then that should be considered
grounds to reject it.

> Yes, they should _if_ they know what version they need. In my
> extensions I really have no idea.

Then you shouldn't submit those extensions to be folded into core git.

> > 3) We should be unconditionally be encouraging extensions to move
> > from shell and Perl to Python.  This would be a clear net gain is
> > portability and maintainability.
> 
> NO! It's up to the developer to choose what language to use,

I agree.  You seem to be raising a lot of straw men.  'Encouragement'
does not equate to beating anyone who makes an unpopular choice over
the head.

I am also not suggesting that the whole git core ought to be hoicked 
over to Python.  I was thinking mainly about extension subcommands, 
not what's in libgit now.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-25  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-25  2:44 Python extension commands in git - request for policy change Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25  3:15 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-11-25  5:18   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25  8:56     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25  9:54       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:48         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:50           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:22             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 21:56               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:11                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27  7:54                   ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27  8:43                     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27  9:17                     ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-27 10:51                       ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 22:01                         ` Guillaume DE BURE
2012-11-27 15:33                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-28  2:09                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:21     ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-25 10:26   ` Pat Thoyts
2012-11-25 10:33     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 15:51       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2012-11-25  8:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25  9:53   ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2012-11-25 11:19     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:32       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:43         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:44           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 11:05             ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-11-25 10:44   ` Michael Haggerty
2012-11-25 10:57     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:51       ` David Lang
2012-11-25 12:01         ` Stefano Lattarini
2012-11-25 17:44         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:25     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-11  5:44       ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  0:09         ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-12-12  0:28           ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  0:53           ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12  1:50             ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-12  2:22               ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12  2:26               ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  5:15                 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12  3:30           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12  5:11             ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 12:23               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12  6:32             ` Jeff King
2012-12-12  7:03               ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  8:32                 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 12:26               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 12:29                 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 17:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:21                 ` Andrew Ardill
2012-12-12 22:43                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12  7:11             ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 12:43               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-19  2:30                 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-11-25 11:40     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:36       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:25         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:11           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:17             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 14:35       ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-27 18:35         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-27 21:08           ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-28  0:16           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-03 21:45             ` Philippe Vaucher
2012-12-04 14:19               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-04 14:40                 ` Stephen Bash
2012-11-28  0:10         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28  0:51           ` Jeff King
2012-11-28  1:22             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28  1:39               ` Jeff King
2012-11-28  2:06                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 15:39           ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-28  5:08     ` Joshua Jensen
2012-11-25  8:57 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-11-25 10:25   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:41 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-11-25 22:47   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26  5:10     ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-26  8:32       ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-12-04 15:51 ` Martin Langhoff

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