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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:57:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121130185709.GA13238@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129160607.06a063bb.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On 11/29, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:59:52 -0500 (EST)
> Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited
> >
> > Use synchronize_sched_expedited() instead of synchronize_sched()
> > to improve mount speed.
> >
> > This patch improves mount time from 0.500s to 0.013s.
> >
> > Note: if realtime people complain about the use
> > synchronize_sched_expedited() and synchronize_rcu_expedited(), I suggest
> > that they introduce an option CONFIG_REALTIME or
> > /proc/sys/kernel/realtime and turn off these *_expedited functions if
> > the option is enabled (i.e. turn synchronize_sched_expedited into
> > synchronize_sched and synchronize_rcu_expedited into synchronize_rcu).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
>
> So I read through this thread but I really didn't see a clear
> description of why mount() got slower.  The changelog for 4b05a1c74d1
> is spectacularly awful :(
>
>
> Apparently the slowdown occurred because a blockdev mount patch
> 62ac665ff9fc07497ca524 ("blockdev: turn a rw semaphore into a percpu rw
> semaphore") newly uses percpu rwsems, and percpu rwsems are slow on the
> down_write() path.
>
> And using synchronize_sched_expedited() rather than synchronize_sched()
> makes percpu_down_write() somewhat less slow.  Correct?
>
> Why is it OK to use synchronize_sched_expedited() here?  If it's
> faster, why can't we use synchronize_sched_expedited() everywhere and
> zap synchronize_sched()?

synchronize_sched_expedited() is much faster but it is heavyweight,
try_stop_cpus() affects the whole system.

We briefly discussed this possibility with Paul, personally I think it
would be better to add percpu_rw_semaphore->use_expedited or add the
percpu_down_write_expedited().

But this change was already applied. I hope we can do this later.

> Oleg, this has implications for your
> percpu_rw_semaphore-reimplement-to-not-block-the-readers-unnecessarily.patch.
> I've changed that to use synchronize_sched_expedited() everywhere -
> please have a think and a retest.

Thanks a lot Andrew. The fix looks obviously fine, but I'll try to test
anyway.

> Note that elsewhere in this thread,
> percpu_rw_semaphore-reimplement-to-not-block-the-readers-unnecessarily.patch
> was found to slow mount down again somewhat, because it adds an
> additional synchronize_sched[_expedited]() to the percpu_down_write()
> path.

Cough... this patch _removes_ one synchronize_sched[_expedited]() and
removes msleep ;) Although the main point was not-block-the-readers.

And I think we can remove another one, but this is not trivial and
percpu_free_rwsem() should be might_sleep().

Oleg.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19  0:33 Recent kernel "mount" slow Jeff Chua
2012-11-20 18:09 ` Jan Kara
2012-11-21 15:46   ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-22 14:30     ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-22 19:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-23 13:24         ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-23 22:21           ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-23 23:31             ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-23 23:48               ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-24 21:09             ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-24 23:23               ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27  5:57                 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27  7:38                   ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-27  7:44                     ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-27  8:45                       ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 10:06                     ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 12:33                       ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-28  3:57                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28  8:33                           ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-28 13:05                             ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-28 17:25                             ` [PATCH] Introduce a method to catch mmap_region (was: Recent kernel "mount" slow) Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 19:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 19:43                                 ` Al Viro
2012-11-28 19:53                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 22:01                                   ` [PATCH v2] Do a proper locking for mmap and block size change Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 17:19                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 18:23                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 18:46                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:02                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:15                                         ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 19:26                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:48                                             ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 19:55                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 20:10                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 20:52                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 21:29                                                 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 22:16                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 22:36                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30  1:16                                                       ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30  2:13                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30  2:27                                                           ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30  2:49                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-30 14:31                                                       ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30 16:42                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30 16:36                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-30 22:40                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-30 23:09                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-29 19:50                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 19:50                                 ` [PATCH] Introduce a method to catch mmap_region (was: Recent kernel "mount" slow) Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 20:03                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:13                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:32                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:47                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 22:10                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 21:29                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 22:52                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 23:13                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29  1:20                                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29  0:38                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29  2:04                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29  2:58                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29  6:16                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29  6:25                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-11-29  6:30                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-11-29  6:37                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29  6:45                                                         ` Al Viro
2012-11-29 10:57                                                           ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-29  6:33                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 14:12                                                   ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 17:26                                                     ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 17:26                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 17:51                                                       ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 18:12                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28  3:59                       ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28  4:01                         ` [PATCH 2/2] block_dev: don't take the write lock if block size doesn't change Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 14:24                           ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-28 22:03                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 14:19                         ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited Jeff Chua
2012-11-30  0:06                         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  3:00                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-30 13:42                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-30 18:57                           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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