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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, sbw@mit.edu,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:15:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121205181524.GA9401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121205165356.GL3885@mtj.dyndns.org>

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On 12/05, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> Replacing get_online_cpus() w/ percpu_rwsem is great but this thread
> is about replacing preempt_disable with something finer grained and
> less heavy on the writer side

If only I understood why preempt_disable() is bad ;)

OK, I guess "less heavy on the writer side" is the hint, and in the
previous email you mentioned that "stop_machine() itself is extremely
heavy".

Looks like, you are going to remove stop_machine() from cpu_down ???

> The problem seems that we don't have percpu_rwlock yet.  It shouldn't
> be too difficult to implement, right?

Oh, I am not sure... unless you simply copy-and-paste the lglock code
and replace spinlock_t with rwlock_t.

We probably want something more efficient, but I bet we can't avoid
the barriers on the read side.

And somehow we should avoid the livelocks. Say, we can't simply add
the per_cpu_reader_counter, _read_lock should spin if the writer is
active. But at the same time _read_lock should be recursive.

Tejun, could you please send me mbox with this thread offlist?

Oleg.


       reply	other threads:[~2012-12-05 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20121205131038.17383.55472.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20121205131136.17383.23318.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com>
     [not found]   ` <20121205142316.GI3885@mtj.dyndns.org>
     [not found]     ` <20121205164640.GA7382@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20121205165356.GL3885@mtj.dyndns.org>
2012-12-05 18:15         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-12-05 18:27           ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Tejun Heo
2012-12-05 18:32         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:42 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10][RESEND] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:47   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:51     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:53       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:56         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:59           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:14             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 16:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 18:48                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 19:17                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 21:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 19:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-06 19:36                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 22:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 17:33                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
     [not found]                     ` <20121207200014.GB13238@redhat.com>
2012-12-10 18:21                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 19:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 19:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-07 20:25                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 20:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:16     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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