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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>,
	Chris Mason <clmason@fusionio.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, 3.7-rc7, RESEND] fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:57:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121207215727.GF29435@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C262AE.5060701@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:42:06PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> The other things that I think we should try would be to convert over
> larger chunks as we discussed on the list back in the summer (just
> because the user writes 4KB does not mean that we cannot flip over
> 1MB and zero that).

Writing a megabyte is not free.  If you assume that your HDD has a
sustained write throughput of 100-125 MB/s, writing a megabyte will
take 8-10ms.  It might be a win if you amortize it over a large number
of writes, but it doesn't help your 99.9 percentile latency numbers.
(99.9 percentile latency numbers matters because eventually you'll
have a user request which hits multiple serial long latency
operations, and then the delay looks **really** user visible.)

	    	     	       	     		- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-07 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19 23:04 [PATCH] fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI Dave Chinner
2012-11-20 16:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-26  0:28 ` [PATCH, 3.7-rc7, RESEND] " Dave Chinner
2012-11-26  2:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26  6:14     ` Tao Ma
2012-11-26  9:12     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-05 10:48       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 15:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-05 16:18           ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 16:33             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-05 17:24               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 17:34                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-05 17:34                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-05 17:55                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 17:55                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-06  0:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06  9:24                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 18:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-06  1:14               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06  3:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-06  9:37                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-07  1:08                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-12-07  2:40                       ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 10:24                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-06 12:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-12-06 16:50                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07  1:57                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06 12:05           ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-12-07  1:16             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-12-07  3:19               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 17:36               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 18:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-07 19:03                   ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 20:43                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:09                       ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 21:27                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:43                           ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 21:49                             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 21:57                               ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 22:51                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-07 22:52                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-07 21:42                         ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 21:57                           ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2012-12-07 22:02                             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-08  0:39                               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  2:52                                 ` Joel Becker
2012-12-08  4:04                                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  0:17                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  1:39                       ` Chris Mason
2012-12-10 16:02                         ` Chris Mason
2012-12-10 17:37                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-10 18:05                         ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-12-10 18:13                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-10 18:20                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-11 12:16                               ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-12-11 22:09                                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-10 18:52                         ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-11  0:52                         ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 19:30                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 21:14                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:47                       ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 23:25                         ` Howard Chu
2012-12-08  0:50                           ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08 13:52                             ` Howard Chu
2012-12-08 14:02                               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 22:01                       ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-09 21:37                       ` Ric Wheeler
2012-11-26 11:53     ` Alan Cox
2012-11-26 14:43       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26 21:12       ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 13:44         ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-11-27 13:44           ` Martin Steigerwald

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