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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	aarcange@redhat.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, criu@openvz.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, john.stultz@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [CRIU] [PATCH] Add VDSO time function support for x86 32-bit kernel
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:25:17 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121214222517.GG6582@moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50CBA171.4080403@zytor.com>

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:00:17PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 12/14/2012 01:27 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know all that much about the linux vm.  Can we create a
> > special vdso address_space or struct inode or something so that a
> > single vma can contain pages with different flags?
> > 
> 
> No, that is still different vmas, but it probably isn't a big deal.
> 
> The advantage of having an inode/namespace is that it lets you use
> mmap() as opposed to mremap() with it, which might be useful, I don't know.
> 
> One option for the checkpoint people might actually be to not use the
> vdso for a process that needs to be checkpointed and restarted on a
> different machine or different kernel version.  Instead they can install
> a pseudo-vdso which just calls normal system calls, and is simply a
> static piece of code that makes normal system calls ... since the
> internals of the kernel are hidden from userspace it is "clean" that way.
> 
> With any actual vdso you risk something like:
> 

Is there a chance to make it something like that (assuming the
dumpee is ptraced)

> 	-> vdso entry

mark task as vdso-entered

> 	-> signal received, transfer to signal handler
> 	-> signal handler exit

before task leave vdso the task mark vdso-entered get cleaned
and if ptraced, the ptracing task is notified

> ... and now you return to the address in the old vdso, but the internals
> of the vdso may have changed.

this would allow us to defer checkpoint until task finish vdso code. Peter,
if I understand you correctly you propose we provide some own proxy-vdso
which would redirect calls to real ones, right? But the main problem
is that is exactly the idea to be able to c/r existing programs without
recompiling and such (or I miss something here?).

	Cyrill

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-14 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-12 20:19 [PATCH] Add VDSO time function support for x86 32-bit kernel stefani
2012-12-12 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13  5:53   ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13  6:10     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13  6:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13  6:17       ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13  6:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13  7:17           ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13 19:32             ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14  0:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14  0:20                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14  0:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14  1:32                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14  1:42                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14  1:49                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14  2:11                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14  2:18                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14  2:20                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14  8:34                               ` [CRIU] " Pavel Emelyanov
2012-12-14 18:35                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 18:44                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 18:47                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 20:12                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 21:08                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 21:20                                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 21:21                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 21:27                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 22:00                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:25                                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2012-12-14 22:27                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:43                                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 22:48                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 23:48                                                       ` John Stultz
2012-12-14 23:55                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-17  9:05                                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                       ` <fb2e871b-3e2a-4e96-9eb9-cb2dd4f66eaa@email.android! .com>
2012-12-17 15:21                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-17 18:56                                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-12-17 18:57                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:46                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 23:09                                   ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-14 23:29                                     ` H. Peter Anvin

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