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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tj@kernel.org, sbw@mit.edu,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:43:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121218194357.GA27972@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50D09180.4080703@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 12/18, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>
> So now that we can't avoid disabling and enabling interrupts,

Still I think it would be better to not use local_irq_save/restore
directly. And,

> I was
> wondering if we could exploit this to avoid the smp_mb()..
>
> Maybe this is a stupid question, but I'll shoot it anyway...
> Does local_irq_disable()/enable provide any ordering guarantees by any chance?

Oh, I do not know.

But please look at the comment above prepare_to_wait(). It assumes
that even spin_unlock_irqrestore() is not the full barrier.

In any case. get_online_cpus_atomic() has to use irq_restore, not
irq_enable. And _restore does nothing "special" if irqs were already
disabled, so I think we can't rely on sti.

> I tried thinking about other ways to avoid that smp_mb() in the reader,

Just in case, I think there is no way to avoid mb() in _get (although
perhaps it can be "implicit").

The writer changes cpu_online_mask and drops the lock. We need to ensure
that the reader sees the change in cpu_online_mask after _get returns.

> but was unsuccessful. So if the above assumption is wrong, I guess we'll
> just have to go with the version that uses synchronize_sched() at the
> writer-side.

In this case we can also convert get_online_cpus() to use percpu_rwsem
and avoid mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock), but this is minor I guess.
I do not think get_online_cpus() is called too often.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-18 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-11 14:03 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 17:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:11       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:23         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:42           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:53     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:02       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:30         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:48           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:12             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 15:26               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:17                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-13 16:32                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-14 18:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-18 15:53                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-18 19:43                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-12-18 20:06                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 16:39                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 18:16                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 19:14                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 19:49                                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-20 13:42                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-20 14:06                                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-22 20:17                                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-23 16:42                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-24 15:50                                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:32                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-12 19:36         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:43           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 21:10             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] kvm, vmx: Add atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat

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