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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: MatthewFioravante <matthew.fioravante@jhuapl.edu>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <liuw@liuw.name>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jim Fehlig <JFEHLIG@suse.com>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:24:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130118152432.GE9973@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50F801F102000078000B6CEE@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:51:45PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 17.01.13 at 12:12, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > On 17/01/13 09:09, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>>> On 16.01.13 at 18:55, George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> >>> * Xen EFI boot
> >>>   - Signature checking for dom0 kernel / initrd?
> >>>   status: No owner.
> >>>   prognosis: Probably not for 4.4
> >> This is already in the tree (c/s 26262:b62bd62b2683). Nothing else
> >> should be necessary on the hypervisor side if the shim is to be used.
> >>
> >> But of course pv-ops Linux continues to lack EFI support altogether.
> > 
> > OK, so I think the description needs an update, then.  For Xen to be 
> > fully featured, I think it would need all of the following:
> > * An EFI-bootable dom0 (this should be done, right?)
> 
> "Done" in the sense of todo for pvops (our kernels have been able
> to for quite a long while).
> 
> > * dom0 able to make use of EFI run-time services
> 
> Indirectly, through hypercalls.
> 
> > * Xen able to use EFI boot-time services (?)
> 
> Sure, that's how things work. Otherwise we wouldn't boot at
> all from EFI. The one extra thing that some people had asked
> for was to be able to also properly boot Xen via grub.efi.
> 
> > * Xen able to detect the existence of a signed Linux binary, and leave 
> > EFI boot-time services enabled for dom0 to use when appropriate
> 
> No. We can't leave bot services enabled, and we also don't
> need to. The model is that only the Dom0 kernel binary needs
> validation at the boot loader level. Everything else will be
> done in the kernel (including initrd validation, or really the
> parts of it that need validation).
> 
> > * dom0 able to use boot-time EFI services and disable them when done
> 
> As above - that's not even an option.
> 
> Jan

>From the Linux pvops side it is all in 'Not-done' camp. Daniel is now
taking a look at it.

> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-18 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-16 17:55 Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking George Dunlap
2013-01-16 18:03 ` Matthew Fioravante
2013-01-18 15:19   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 21:17     ` Fioravante, Matthew E.
2013-01-16 18:15 ` Wei Liu
2013-01-17 10:50   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17  9:09 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 11:12   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 12:51     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 13:58       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 14:15         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 14:32           ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:26             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:30             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:48               ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:04                 ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:20                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:22                     ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:14                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:29                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:49                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:11                       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:35                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:43                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 17:06                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:49                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:30                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:24       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-01-18 11:20     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-21 14:12       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 13:53         ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-22 14:10           ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-17 10:00 ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-17 11:22   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:50     ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-18 15:21       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 15:33         ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-21 15:06       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 10:20 ` Olaf Hering
2013-01-17 17:23   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:54 ` Daniel De Graaf
2013-01-17 15:49   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-21 15:04   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 17:42     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found] <mailman.21508.1358358967.1399.xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
2013-01-17 16:07 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-22 14:32 Daniel Kiper

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