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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Jacek Milewicz <jacekowski@jacekowski.org>
Cc: 'Ian Campbell' <Ian.Campbell@eu.citrix.com>,
	'Steven Haigh' <netwiz@crc.id.au>,
	'annie li' <annie.li@oracle.com>,
	Wei.Liu2@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: Is: SKB_MAX_LEN bites again. Was: Re: bug disabling guest interface
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:49:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130312144904.GE17901@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000301ce1c49$a3f759d0$ebe60d70$@jacekowski.org>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 11:09:56PM +0100, Jacek Milewicz wrote:
> > > > Is there any further information on a possible fix for this?
> Thoughts?
> > > > Ideas? As it seems to be hitting multiple sites, I'd like to get it
> > > fixed asap...
> > >
> > > There are 3 ways I can see this fixed:
> > > - update guests so all have same MAX_SKB_FRAGS (that includes windows
> > > drivers (windows drivers use 19 for MAX_SKB_FRAGS)) -add some sort of
> > > negotiation between host and guest
> > > - change MAX_SKB_FRAGS to 19 to accommodate all guests
> > >
> > > Unfortunately first one requires changes to the guest and most don't
> > > have that luxury. So the only way I see it could be fixed without
> > > breaking compatibility even more  is
> > 
> > Ugh. The negotiations between host and guest is probably the best
> choice.
> > The issues you are going to hit are that you might need to redo the skbs
> to
> > match what the frontend's max is.
> > 
> > Annie, Wei, Ian - were there some RFC patches floating around for this?
> > 
> 
> As much as I agree that negotiation is the best option in long term. It
> relies on people upgrading their kernels - and this is not the case (only
> people running kernels from before 2011-12-23 are affected by this bug
> (I'm not sure about other platforms)).
> And in a lot of cases (VPS providers) there is no easy way to upgrade
> guest kernels. 

Sure. The other option in the xen-netback might be a configurable option
to let net-back know that it is running with older guests which expect
18 size MAX_SKB_FRAGS. That way we have the negotiation part, the code to
deal with backend MAX_SKB_FRAGS != frontend MAX_SKB_FRAGS and the value that
the system admin provides.

What I am saying is that if we get the negotiation protcol figured out
properly we can provide a per-guest value that the system admin
can over-write to say: "I know that this guest uses _this_ size".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-12 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-08  8:46 bug disabling guest interface Steven Haigh
2013-03-08 19:36 ` Jacek Milewicz
2013-03-08 20:36   ` Is: SKB_MAX_LEN bites again. Was: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-08 22:09     ` Jacek Milewicz
2013-03-09  2:19       ` Steven Haigh
2013-03-12 14:49       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-03-12 14:56         ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-12 15:05           ` Steven Haigh
2013-03-12 15:08             ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-12 22:19               ` James Harper
2013-03-13  4:09                 ` jacek burghardt
2013-03-12 14:49       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-09  2:57     ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-09  3:16       ` Steven Haigh
2013-03-09 12:53       ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-03-10  4:58         ` ANNIE LI
2013-03-10  4:49       ` ANNIE LI
2013-03-12 11:39         ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-10 19:18       ` Wei Liu
2013-03-12 11:40         ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-12 12:18           ` Wei Liu
2013-03-12 15:07             ` ANNIE LI
2013-03-12 15:25               ` Wei Liu
2013-03-12 20:13                 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-12 21:08                   ` Wei Liu
2013-03-13  6:44                   ` annie li
2013-03-13  9:43                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-13 11:24                     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-13  6:22                 ` annie li
2013-03-13 11:26                   ` Wei Liu
2013-03-10  4:48     ` ANNIE LI
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2013-04-11  7:31             ` Is: SKB_MAX_LEN bites again. Was: Re: bug disabling guest interface Brian Menges

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