From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Aristeu Rozanski <aris@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:23:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130316002318.GA11997@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9q4gzs1.fsf@xmission.com>
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com> writes:
>
> > Since we have strict control on who access the devices, it should be
> > no problem to allow the device to appear.
>
> Having cgroups or user namespaces grant privileges makes me uneasy.
>
> With these patches it looks like I can do something evil like.
>
> 1. Create a devcgroup.
> 2. Put a process in it.
> 3. Create a usernamespace.
> 4. Run a container in that user namespace.
> 5. As an unprivileged user in that user namespace create another user namespace.
> 6. Call mknod and have it succeed.
not if the devcgroup forbids it.
> Or in short I don't think this handles nested user namespaces at all.
> With or without Serge's suggested change.
Yeah my change doesn't help, other than to stop the unpriv user from
creating the device in an fs he doesn't own...
> At a practical level now is not the right time to be granting more
> permissions to user namespaces. Lately too many silly bugs have been
> found in what is already there.
I agree.
I realize this doesn't help the centos old-udev situation, but otherwise
bind mounting device files works fine, so I agree we should wait.
Sorry.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-16 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-15 9:13 [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts in user namespaces Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 1/4] dev_cgroup: keep track of which cgroup is the root cgroup Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:07 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:55 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <514333A2.5060408-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:55 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:07 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 19:27 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: allow dev accesses in userns in controlled situations Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:20 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:20 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 15:32 ` Janne Karhunen
[not found] ` <CAE=Ncradvs_twWT8b6NQz85dm-Y8ayTH7NFv=i0vjYXpRBW9sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 15:37 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 16:52 ` Janne Karhunen
[not found] ` <CAE=NcrYeKQYqkPsB9FG5PpYd2VTqmTszfpY39aRJqR=vsXfa7w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 17:27 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 18:08 ` Janne Karhunen
[not found] ` <CAE=NcraBvk_hwCd9BgASpDBkmEB+fg-kKwAPbT7bQeFRbq5DSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 19:15 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 18:03 ` Vasily Kulikov
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:37 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51433511.1020808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:14 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:14 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:37 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 18:03 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-03-15 20:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 20:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 20:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-16 0:23 ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
[not found] ` <87a9q4gzs1.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-16 0:23 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:45 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:45 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 10:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87boalt0vi.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 12:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:00 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:00 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:42 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:42 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5143333E.1040100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:21 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:26 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 15:26 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 15:26 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51433DBE.9020109-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:58 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:58 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 16:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-18 3:20 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-18 21:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87txoce5qy.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18 3:20 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:42 ` Glauber Costa
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