From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:57:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130319105748.GH2055@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5146FC86.2080107@gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:37:42PM +0800, Simon Jeons wrote:
> On 03/17/2013 09:04 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >Historically, kswapd used to congestion_wait() at higher priorities if it
> >was not making forward progress. This made no sense as the failure to make
> >progress could be completely independent of IO. It was later replaced by
> >wait_iff_congested() and removed entirely by commit 258401a6 (mm: don't
> >wait on congested zones in balance_pgdat()) as it was duplicating logic
> >in shrink_inactive_list().
> >
> >This is problematic. If kswapd encounters many pages under writeback and
> >it continues to scan until it reaches the high watermark then it will
> >quickly skip over the pages under writeback and reclaim clean young
> >pages or push applications out to swap.
> >
> >The use of wait_iff_congested() is not suited to kswapd as it will only
> >stall if the underlying BDI is really congested or a direct reclaimer was
> >unable to write to the underlying BDI. kswapd bypasses the BDI congestion
> >as it sets PF_SWAPWRITE but even if this was taken into account then it
>
> Where will check this flag?
>
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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:57:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130319105748.GH2055@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5146FC86.2080107@gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:37:42PM +0800, Simon Jeons wrote:
> On 03/17/2013 09:04 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >Historically, kswapd used to congestion_wait() at higher priorities if it
> >was not making forward progress. This made no sense as the failure to make
> >progress could be completely independent of IO. It was later replaced by
> >wait_iff_congested() and removed entirely by commit 258401a6 (mm: don't
> >wait on congested zones in balance_pgdat()) as it was duplicating logic
> >in shrink_inactive_list().
> >
> >This is problematic. If kswapd encounters many pages under writeback and
> >it continues to scan until it reaches the high watermark then it will
> >quickly skip over the pages under writeback and reclaim clean young
> >pages or push applications out to swap.
> >
> >The use of wait_iff_congested() is not suited to kswapd as it will only
> >stall if the underlying BDI is really congested or a direct reclaimer was
> >unable to write to the underlying BDI. kswapd bypasses the BDI congestion
> >as it sets PF_SWAPWRITE but even if this was taken into account then it
>
> Where will check this flag?
>
may_write_to_queue
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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2013-03-17 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: vmscan: Limit the number of pages kswapd reclaims at each priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:53 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 23:53 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:16 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:16 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-20 16:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20 16:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 0:08 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 0:08 ` Will Huck
2013-03-21 9:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 9:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:51 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 0:51 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 15:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 3:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 3:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 3:56 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 3:56 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 4:59 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 4:59 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-05 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-04-05 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:32 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:32 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:35 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:35 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:54 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:54 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:58 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:58 ` Will Huck
2013-04-12 5:46 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12 5:46 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12 9:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 9:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-12 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-25 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25 9:13 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25 9:13 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-29 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-29 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-30 22:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-30 22:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-04-02 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-02 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 1:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 18:02 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:02 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 16:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 16:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 18:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 18:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: vmscan: Flatten kswapd priority loop Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 7:02 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:58 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 23:58 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 3:08 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 3:08 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 8:23 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 8:23 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 10:14 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:14 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:26 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:26 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:26 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:26 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:38 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:38 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: vmscan: Decide whether to compact the pgdat based on reclaim progress Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:35 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-18 11:35 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: vmscan: Do not allow kswapd to scan at maximum priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:20 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 1:20 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:30 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 12:30 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd writeback pages based on dirty pages encountered, not priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:42 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:42 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:49 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:49 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-19 11:06 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 11:06 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:37 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 11:37 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:57 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-03-19 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-21 16:32 ` [PATCH 07/10 -v2r1] " Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] " Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:42 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09 6:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 6:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 8:41 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 8:41 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 1:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 1:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 9:53 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 9:53 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 5:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10 5:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:29 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-11 10:29 ` Ric Mason
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: vmscan: Check if kswapd should writepage " Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:58 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:58 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: vmscan: Move logic from balance_pgdat() to kswapd_shrink_zone() Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 17:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Damien Wyart
2013-03-21 10:54 ` Zlatko Calusic
2013-03-21 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-09 11:06 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V2 Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:07 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 2:54 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-12 2:54 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-11 19:57 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V3 Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` Mel Gorman
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