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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] man2 : syscall.2 : document syscall calling conventions
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:43:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201304071443.08504.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
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On Sunday 07 April 2013 06:00:50 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 April 2013 02:54:39 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> > On Monday 01 April 2013 05:29:11 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> >> > on a related topic, would it be useful to document the exact
> >> >> > calling convention for architecture system calls ?  from time to
> >> >> > time, i need to reference this, and i inevitably turn to a variety
> >> >> > of sources to dig up the answer (the kernel itself, or strace, or
> >> >> > qemu, or glibc, or uClibc, or lss, or other random places).  i
> >> >> > would find it handy to have all of these in a single location.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sounds like it would be useful to have that documented. Would you
> >> >> have a chance to write patches for that?
> >> > 
> >> > should we do it in syscall(2) ?  or a dedicated man page ?
> >> 
> >> It's a little hard to say until I see the shape of what comes. Can you
> >> provide a rough per-syscall example or two of what you expect to
> >> document? (Don't write too concrete a patch yet, until I can get a
> >> handle on what you intend.)
> > 
> > this renders nicely i think.  it shows most of the stuff i'm interested
> > in. might be useful to add a dedicated section covering the clobbers in
> > the future.
> 
> Thanks for that. It looks good to me, and I have applied. But it
> renders too wide (wherever possible, I try to ensure that everything
> renders inside 80 columns), so I have split into tables, one with
> "instruction, NR, ret" and another with the arguments (arg1 to arg7).
> 
> Now, just to make 100% sure of your intention, the NR column would be
> better named "syscall #" (or similar), right? (I've made that change.)

i called it "nr" because that's the common convention (__NR_xxx/etc...) in 
code bases, and because it does a nice job of not pushing the table too wide.

if you've split up the table though, that should no longer be a problem.

> > --- a/man2/syscall.2
> > +++ b/man2/syscall.2
> > @@ -79,6 +79,35 @@ and an error code is stored in
> >  .BR syscall ()
> >  first appeared in
> >  4BSD.
> > +.SS Architecture calling conventions
> > +Every architecture has its own way of invoking & passing arguments to
> > the +kernel.
> > +Note that the instruction listed below might not be the fastest or best
> > way to +transition to the kernel, so you might have to refer to the
> > VDSO.
> 
> Mike, any chance that I could interest you in writing a vdso(7) man
> page? I've felt the lack of such a page for a while (it need not be
> too long), but am not deep enough into the details to write it easily
> (I am not sure if you are).

i might take a stab at it.  it's annoying to constantly have to refer to the 
kernel source when looking something up.

in order to be useful, i think there will have to be arch-specific sections 
which document the funcs each port provides.
-mike

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-07 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-27  5:11 [PATCH] man2 : syscall.2 : add notes ch0.han-Hm3cg6mZ9cc
     [not found] ` <1364361092-5948-1-git-send-email-ch0.han-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-27  7:53   ` (unknown), Changhee Han
2013-03-27  8:25   ` [PATCH v2] man2 : syscall.2 : add notes Changhee Han
2013-03-28  9:37   ` [PATCH] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-01  5:33   ` Changhee Han
     [not found]     ` <1364794429-20477-1-git-send-email-ch0.han-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  6:13       ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]         ` <201304010213.06056.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  6:22           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]             ` <CAKgNAki_8bOsuKTJLx3iMLeSvVXHo0bZf8zSUQ08RR7+D33xgQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  7:19               ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                 ` <201304010319.45019.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  7:36                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                     ` <CAKgNAkhBASGvXGfdBSjpGaMuxoJofcQvZQrX3a=uxbcKQnXOAQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  8:29                       ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                         ` <201304010429.45737.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  9:29                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                             ` <CAKgNAkij3zDwakWvcRkRbknmV2Hpt4HWfH4uVqmxp+7gQek-2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 10:32                               ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                                 ` <201304010632.41520.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-02  6:54                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKgNAkgG2kdCC1tyZQkYU7O_nP7RB8VoCmx6eb8FcudU1s6RgA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-02 23:17                                       ` [PATCH] man2 : syscall.2 : document syscall calling conventions Mike Frysinger
2013-04-07 10:00                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-07 13:55                                           ` Kyle McMartin
2013-04-07 14:56                                             ` James Bottomley
2013-04-07 15:11                                               ` Kyle McMartin
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130407151134.GX12938-PfSpb0PWhxZc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-07 15:38                                                   ` James Bottomley
2013-04-08  9:18                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                             ` <20130407135514.GW12938-PfSpb0PWhxZc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-07 18:39                                               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-07 18:48                                                 ` John David Anglin
     [not found]                                                   ` <BLU0-SMTP986B123D17DB8B88214F797C40-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08  9:20                                                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-08  9:20                                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                       ` <CAKgNAkhv6tovvnucoofDR-eOe4H7xeFZDam9+iaVVndEqbuoXg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-12  1:40                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                                                           ` <201304112140.18506.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16  6:01                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-12  1:55                                                   ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                                                     ` <201304112155.46349.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-12  2:34                                                       ` John David Anglin
2013-04-12  3:38                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-12  4:45                                                           ` James Bottomley
2013-04-12 12:17                                                             ` John David Anglin
2013-04-12 18:45                                                             ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-12 19:14                                                               ` James Bottomley
2013-04-12 19:46                                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-12 20:25                                                                   ` James Bottomley
2013-04-12 14:01                                                     ` Kyle McMartin
     [not found]                                           ` <CAKgNAkgODPSWSeA8ZymiAjFBqSAZQMtQe9GW84Y6QHdFEc9S-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-07 18:43                                             ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2013-04-01  8:37                   ` [PATCH] man2 : syscall.2 : add notes Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                     ` <201304010437.52901.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  9:30                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                         ` <CAKgNAkit-qRPErHDzGEJ_yedA+O97bFxDsqWJMZOhCZ9DPvOtw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 10:09                           ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-01  7:05           ` Fw : Re : " 한창희

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