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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Russ Anderson <rja@sgi.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Do not force shutdown/reboot to boot cpu.
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:22:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130410172236.GE21951@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130410171420.GF3658@sgi.com>


* Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:59:34PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Russ Anderson <rja@sgi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Yes, I have a test patch that replaces for_each_online_cpu(cpu) with a cpu 
> > > bitmask in disable_nonboot_cpus().  The lower level routines already take a 
> > > bitmask.  It allows __stop_machine() to be called just once.  That change 
> > > reduces shutdown time on a 1024 cpu machine from 16 minutes 4 minutes.  
> > > Significant improvement, but not good enough.
> > > 
> > > The next significant bottleneck is __cpu_notify().  Tried creating worker 
> > > threads to parallelize the shutdown, but the problem is __cpu_notify() is not 
> > > thread safe.  Putting a lock around it caused all the worker threads to fight 
> > > over the lock.
> > 
> > 4 minutes bootup is 240 seconds, with 1024 CPUs that's about 240 msecs per CPU.
> > 
> > That sounds a lot, given that unlike bootup there's not much real work to be done 
> > during shutdown - we don't initialize anything, etc.
> > 
> > Maybe much of those 240 msecs are spent in some stupid udelay loop or so, which 
> > could be made parallel?
> > 
> > Would it be possible to create a 'reboot but stop at the end and reactivate all 
> > CPUs again' reboot flag, so that it can all be NMI-profiled, to see where the true 
> > bottleneck is? A naked disable_nonboot_cpus() call in essence.
> 
> What, exactly, are you proposing with the NMI profiling? [...]

I'm proposing to make 'reboot' overhead profilable, via a debug hack:

        echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/magic_dont_fully_reboot_flag

	perf record reboot

perf is using NMIs to profile - and since much of cpu_down() is with irqs 
disabled, NMI profiling would be needed to see inside the overhead.

(Assuming the 240 msecs is CPU overhead, not waiting for some IRQ/IPI event.)

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-03 19:37 [PATCH] Do not force shutdown/reboot to boot cpu Robin Holt
2013-04-08 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-08 16:11   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-08 16:59     ` Robin Holt
2013-04-10 11:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 14:01         ` Robin Holt
2013-04-10 15:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-10 15:29           ` Russ Anderson
2013-04-10 16:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 17:14               ` Robin Holt
2013-04-10 17:22                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-04-10 17:55                   ` Robin Holt
2013-04-10 19:00                     ` Robin Holt
2013-04-11  8:57                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-11 11:34                         ` Robin Holt
2013-04-11 12:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-11 12:03                             ` Robin Holt
2013-04-11 12:08                               ` Robin Holt
2013-04-11 12:14                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 17:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10 23:02               ` Russ Anderson
2013-04-10 22:29             ` Russ Anderson
2013-04-11  5:31           ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-11 12:45             ` Bulk CPU Hotplug (Was Re: [PATCH] Do not force shutdown/reboot to boot cpu.) Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-04-11 13:48               ` Robin Holt
2013-04-12  5:37                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-12  6:09                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-04-12  9:31                     ` Robin Holt
2013-04-12 10:01                       ` Robin Holt
2013-04-13 16:30                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-04-15 16:04                         ` Robin Holt
2013-04-15 16:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-04-15 16:10                           ` Robin Holt
2013-04-13 17:01                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-04-15 10:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-15 12:02                         ` Robin Holt
2013-04-15 15:59                           ` Robin Holt
2013-04-16  9:40                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-11 14:23               ` Russ Anderson
2013-04-11 14:45                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-04-11 20:08                   ` Russ Anderson
2013-04-11 20:17                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-04-11 21:08                     ` Robin Holt
2013-04-08 16:54   ` [PATCH] Do not force shutdown/reboot to boot cpu Robin Holt
2013-04-08 17:07   ` Russ Anderson

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