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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	lvs-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	dhaval.giani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipvs: Use cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper when dumping connections
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:45:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130426154547.GC3860@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130426080313.GC8669@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:03:13AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:45:08AM +0900, Simon Horman wrote:
> 
> > @@ -975,8 +975,7 @@ static void *ip_vs_conn_array(struct seq_file *seq, loff_t pos)
> >  				return cp;
> >  			}
> >  		}
> > -		rcu_read_unlock();
> > -		rcu_read_lock();
> > +		cond_resched_rcu_lock();
> >  	}
> 
> 
> While I agree with the sentiment I do find it a somewhat dangerous construct in
> that it might become far too easy to keep an RCU reference over this break and
> thus violate the RCU premise.
> 
> Is there anything that can detect this? Sparse / cocinelle / smatch? If so it
> would be great to add this to these checkers.

I have done some crude coccinelle patterns in the past, but they are
subject to false positives (from when you transfer the pointer from
RCU protection to reference-count protection) and also false negatives
(when you atomically increment some statistic unrelated to protection).

I could imagine maintaining a per-thread count of the number of outermost
RCU read-side critical sections at runtime, and then associating that
counter with a given pointer at rcu_dereference() time, but this would
require either compiler magic or an API for using a pointer returned
by rcu_dereference().  This API could in theory be enforced by sparse.

Dhaval Giani might have some ideas as well, adding him to CC.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-26 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-26  1:45 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Add cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper Simon Horman
2013-04-26  1:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Simon Horman
2013-04-26  6:13   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-26  1:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] ipvs: Use cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper when dumping connections Simon Horman
2013-04-26  6:15   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-30  2:45     ` Simon Horman
2013-04-26  8:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 15:45     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-04-26 15:59       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-04-26 16:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-26 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 17:48         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-26 18:26           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-04-26 19:04             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-27  7:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-27 16:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-27 11:32             ` Julian Anastasov
2013-04-27 16:20               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-29 21:08                 ` Julian Anastasov
2013-04-29 21:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-29 23:12                     ` Julian Anastasov

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