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From: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Bruce Korb <bruce.korb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Where is GRUB development?
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 22:09:41 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130513220941.391f464d@opensuse.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130513170714.GC14305@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

В Mon, 13 May 2013 13:07:14 -0400
"Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> пишет:

> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:24:34AM -0700, Bruce Korb wrote:
> > I've been Googling around to no particular avail.  I have this
> > _really_ difficult problem.  I need to boot into single user mode and
> > GRUB2 has made it so difficult that I am unable to accomplish that.  I
> > am sure there are reasons for obscuring the obvious in this way, but
> > such reasons escape me.  If anyone here is still doing GRUB2
> > development, *please* consider an enhancement to the interface that
> > will make it obvious and easy to boot into run levels 1 and 3 as well
> > as 5.  Thank you.
> 
> That's a kernel command line issue, and something every distribution I
> have ever used took care of automatically by creating extra grub menu
> entries with the correct arguments.
> 

Do you suggest to create extra menu entries for every possible
combination of kernel parameters?

> Nothing to do with grub other than grub happens to do what you tell it
> in the config.
> 

Sometimes we may need to change or augment what is in the config during
boot as one off action. Without creating configuration file.

> So grub has done nothing to make it difficult since it has never been
> a grub issue.
> 

Let's be fair.

Editing grub2 menu entry is far more complicated than even editing plain
grub legacy menu entry. And most users have never seen even that - they
know gfxmenu that has input field for extra kernel parameters. So for
99% of *users* booting into single user was a matter of pressing "1
ENTER". Most of them are not even aware that menu entries can be edited
(because for them gfxmenu *was* grub).

For them doing anything in grub2 (even as much as forcing system into
single user) is shocking experience. 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-13 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-13 16:24 Where is GRUB development? Bruce Korb
2013-05-13 17:07 ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-05-13 18:09   ` Andrey Borzenkov [this message]
2013-05-13 18:16     ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-05-13 18:39       ` Chris Murphy
2013-05-13 20:15         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-05-13 18:43       ` Bruce Korb
2013-05-13 19:15         ` Jordi Mallach
2013-05-13 19:54         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-05-14 13:07           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2013-05-14 16:33           ` Bruce Korb
2013-05-14 18:03             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-05-14 19:49               ` Chris Murphy

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