From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
dzickus@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nohz: Disable LOCKUP_DETECTOR when NO_HZ_FULL is enabled
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 17:59:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130515155914.GC24004@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130515083729.GC10510@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:37:29AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 06:02:51PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >
> > Trying to test the nohz_full code, I was not able to get it to work.
> > Finally I enabled the tick_stop tracepoint and it showed:
> >
> > tick_stop: success=no msg=perf events running
> >
> > I talked to Frederic Weisbecker about this and he informed me that
> > perf is used by the lockup detector. I checked the code, and sure
> > enough it is.
> >
> > As perf is always running when LOCKUP_DETECTOR is enabled, which
> > will always disable nohz_full from working, instead of confusing
> > users, disable LOCKUP_DETECTOR when NO_HZ_FULL is enabled.
> >
> > When perf is changed such that it does not prevent nohz_full from
> > working, then we can and should remove this constraint.
>
> That's a bit contradictory in function, you want the NMI watchdog to
> cover all code, so disabling whilst entering NO_HZ state is going to
> make it not cover some code - *fail*.
>
> Rather I would suggest disabling the NMI watchdog's runtime default; so
> you can still enable it with something like:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog
>
Sounds good, and we then warn the user about that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-15 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-14 16:02 [GIT PULL] Nohz fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-14 16:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] nohz: Disable LOCKUP_DETECTOR when NO_HZ_FULL is enabled Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-15 8:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15 15:06 ` Don Zickus
2013-05-15 15:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-15 16:26 ` Don Zickus
2013-05-15 16:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15 17:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-16 8:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-16 11:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-16 17:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-16 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-16 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-16 18:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-16 23:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-19 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-16 20:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-15 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15 17:50 ` Don Zickus
2013-05-15 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15 15:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2013-05-14 16:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] nohz: Warn if the machine can not perform nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
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