From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Cc: KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
seabios@seabios.org,
qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Jordan Justen \(Intel address\)" <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 20:45:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130530174539.GF29091@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFe8ug9CTjAZ9HfnJpmNK6wtogyY6xxNkc5tBjQd-qiHNkUVyA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 09:57:10AM -0700, Jordan Justen wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 05/30/13 18:20, Jordan Justen wrote:
> >> I think ACPI table generation lives in firmware on real products,
> >> because on real products the firmware is the point that best
> >> understands the actual hardware layout for the machine. In qemu, I
> >> would say that qemu best knows the hardware layout, given that the
> >> firmware is generally a slightly separate project from qemu.
> >>
> >> I don't think adding a coreboot layer into the picture helps, if it
> >> brings along the coreboot payload boot interface as a requirement.
> >>
> >> Then again, I don't really understand how firmware could be swapped
> >> out in this case. What would -bios do? How would the coreboot ACPI
> >> shim layer be specified to qemu?
> >
> > I guess -bios would load coreboot. Coreboot would siphon the data
> > necessary for ACPI table building through the current (same) fw_cfg
> > bottleneck, build the tables, load the boot firmware (SeaBIOS or OVMF or
> > something else -- not sure how to configure that), and pass down the
> > tables to the firmware (through a now unspecified interface -- perhaps
> > the tables could even be installed at this point). This could introduce
> > another interface (fw_cfg+something rather than just fw_cfg), but ACPI
> > table preparation would be concentrated in one project.
> >
> > I guess.
>
> For reference, I believe that both Xen and virtualbox build ACPI table
> in the VMM rather than firmware. They both dump the tables into the
> 0xe000 segment (yuck) where firmware finds and publishes it to the OS.
> I think fw-cfg would be a reasonable alternative to this for
> communicating the tables.
>
> -Jordan
Want to review/ack the patches I sent? That's exactly what they do.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-30 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-23 12:41 KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28 Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 3:02 ` [SeaBIOS] " li guang
2013-05-28 23:53 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-29 8:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-02 15:05 ` [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-02 15:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:53 ` [SeaBIOS] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 6:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 8:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29 9:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 9:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29 9:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:18 ` [SeaBIOS] " Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:35 ` [SeaBIOS] " Markus Armbruster
2013-05-30 1:12 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 12:16 ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 6:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30 9:23 ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 12:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 12:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 12:43 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 16:41 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 17:37 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 17:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-05-31 9:32 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31 9:55 ` [SeaBIOS] [Qemu-devel] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 23:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Jordan Justen
2013-06-03 5:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30 17:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31 12:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 19:48 ` Patrick Georgi
2013-05-29 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31 2:34 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 7:09 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 11:45 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 14:01 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:36 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:02 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 21:03 ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-01 0:01 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01 3:16 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 14:08 ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 14:28 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 16:54 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 18:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-31 18:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:28 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:45 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-02 9:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 7:24 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 8:13 ` [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 10:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31 13:03 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01 3:41 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 12:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 13:02 ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-01 3:11 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-02 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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