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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 net-next] netlink: allow large data transfers from user-space
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 19:29:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130603172926.GA28297@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130603170136.GA23920@macbook.localnet>

Hi Patrick!

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 07:01:37PM +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:39:59PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > I can hit ENOBUFS in the sendmsg() path with a large batch that is
> > composed of many netlink messages. Here that limit is 8 MBytes of
> > skbuff data area as kmalloc does not manage to get more than that.
> > 
> > While discussing atomic rule-set for nftables with Patrick McHardy,
> > we decided to put all rule-set updates that need to be applied
> > atomically in one single batch to simplify the existing approach.
> > However, as explained above, the existing netlink code limits us
> > to a maximum of ~20000 rules that fit in one single batch without
> > hitting ENOBUFS. iptables does not have such limitation as it is
> > using vmalloc.
> > 
> > This patch adds netlink_alloc_large_skb() which is only used in
> > the netlink_sendmsg() path. It uses alloc_skb if the memory
> > requested is <= one memory page, that should be the common case
> > for most subsystems, else vmalloc for higher memory allocations.
> 
> I know I suggested to do this - just wondering right now, how will
> we indiciate to userspace that a change has been applied atomically
> when sending notifications? Not sure whether it matters unless
> userspace will be able to get a dump while we're in the middle of
> updating the ruleset. I guess that won't be possible, right?

Userspace gets dump messages with the NLM_F_DUMP_INTR flag set in case
of interference, so it knows it has to retry the dump to get a fresh
rule-set. The current nftables code does not work that way, it needs a
small patch I have here though.

Regards.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 16:39 [PATCHv2 net-next] netlink: allow large data transfers from user-space Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-03 17:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2013-06-03 17:29   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2013-06-03 17:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 17:41   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-06-03 18:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 19:21       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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