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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:24:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130717042431.GC20312@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374033238.2537.98.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk>

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 04:53:58AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 09:36 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:11:24AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Greg KH wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Anything that's being reviewed on the stable list is public.  I know
> > > > > this is an old argument, but if you point out a fix you *know* has a
> > > > > security impact then you'll help general distribution maintainers and
> > > > > users a lot more than you help the black-hats who are quite capable of
> > > > > recognising such a fix (if they haven't already spotted and exploited
> > > > > the bug).
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sorry, but you know I will not do that, so asking about it isn't
> > > > going to change this behavior.
> > > 
> > > I just followed up in the other thread, where Ted was explaining why the 
> > > huge /dev/random rework was a -stable material.
> > > 
> > > Why specifically would it be wrong to be open about this being security 
> > > related, and providing the necessary data (i.e. at least reference to 
> > > http://factorable.net/) publically?
> > > 
> > > I fail to see what the point behind hiding this would be.
> > 
> > I'm not "hiding" anything, all I'm doing is using the exact same
> > changelog comments that are in Linus's tree, and nothing else.
> 
> Right, and I wouldn't expect you to edit commit messages.  But if a fix
> was privately proposed to you for stable on the grounds that the bug is
> found to be exploitable, maybe you could include that information in the
> cover message for the review.

Sorry, my position on that has not changed, I will not do that for the
obvious reasons discussed many times in the past.

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-17  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 19:27 KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag James Bottomley
2013-07-15 19:45 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 19:55   ` Willy Tarreau
2013-07-15 20:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 21:09       ` Joe Perches
2013-07-15 21:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 21:34           ` Joe Perches
2013-07-21  4:06         ` Rob Landley
2013-07-15 21:52       ` Willy Tarreau
2013-07-15 20:15   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-15 21:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 20:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 22:04   ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-15 22:07     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 22:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 23:22         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-16  0:13           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-16  0:21             ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  0:25               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-16 15:50                 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-07-15 20:20 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-15 21:44 ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 21:55   ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 22:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 23:08       ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  0:40         ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16  9:06       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 22:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  0:06     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  2:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  2:41         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  3:27           ` Dave Airlie
2013-07-16  3:43             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  4:10             ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  6:23             ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  6:10       ` James Bottomley
2013-07-16  6:28         ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 22:22   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 23:40     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 23:59     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  2:30   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  6:13     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  9:11       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 16:36         ` Greg KH
2013-07-17  3:53           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-17  4:24             ` Greg KH [this message]
2013-07-16  5:17   ` James Bottomley
2013-07-16  6:20     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  7:43       ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " James Bottomley
2013-07-16  9:46         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16  9:46           ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 12:43           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16 16:35           ` Greg KH
2013-07-16 23:15             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 13:14         ` Josh Boyer
2013-07-17 15:08         ` John W. Linville
2013-07-18  7:45           ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-16 10:02       ` Jan Kara
2013-07-16  6:24   ` David Lang
2013-07-16 16:45     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  2:00 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  9:53   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-21  4:11 ` Rob Landley
2013-07-21 15:09   ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Ben Hutchings
2013-07-22 21:24     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-07-23  2:29       ` Li Zefan
2013-07-23  2:29         ` Li Zefan
2013-07-23  2:40 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23  2:40   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23  2:47   ` James Bottomley
2013-07-23  2:57     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23  2:57       ` Myklebust, Trond

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