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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, hbrock@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	rjones@redhat.com, imain@redhat.com,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:44:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130724074438.GA26034@T430s.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130724073504.GB31445@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com>

On Wed, 07/24 09:35, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 08:39:53AM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > On Tue, 07/23 15:34, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:32:25PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 07/23 11:36, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:06PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > > > > Introduce refcnt_soft (soft reference) and refcnt_hard (hard reference)
> > > > > > to BlockDriverState, since in_use mechanism cannot provide proper
> > > > > > management of lifecycle when a BDS is referenced in multiple places
> > > > > > (e.g. pointed to by another bs's backing_hd while also used as a block
> > > > > > job device, in the use case of image fleecing).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The original in_use case is considered a "hard reference" in this patch,
> > > > > > where the bs is busy and should not be used in other tasks that require
> > > > > > a hard reference. (However the interface doesn't force this, caller
> > > > > > still need to call bdrv_in_use() to check by itself.).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A soft reference is implemented but not used yet. It will be used in
> > > > > > following patches to manage the lifecycle together with hard reference.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If bdrv_ref() is called on a BDS, it must be released by exactly the
> > > > > > same numbers of bdrv_unref() with the same "soft/hard" type, and never
> > > > > > call bdrv_delete() directly. If the BDS is only used locally (unnamed),
> > > > > > bdrv_ref/bdrv_unref can be skipped and just use bdrv_delete().
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is risky to keep bdrv_delete() public.  I suggest replacing
> > > > > bdrv_delete() callers with bdrv_unref() and then making bdrv_delete()
> > > > > static in block.c.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This way it is impossible to make the mistake of calling bdrv_delete()
> > > > > on a BDS which has refcnt > 1.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't really understand this patch.  There are now two separate
> > > > > refcounts.  They must both reach 0 for deletion to occur.  I think
> > > > > you plan to treat the "hard" refcount like the in_use counter (there
> > > > > should only be 0 or 1 refs) but you don't enforce it.  It seems cleaner
> > > > > to keep in_use separate: let in_use callers take a refcount and also set
> > > > > in_use.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, I like your ideas, make bdrv_delete private is much cleaner. Will
> > > > fix in next revision.
> > > > 
> > > > I plan to make it like this:
> > > > 
> > > >     /* soft ref */
> > > >     void bdrv_{ref,unref}(bs)
> > > > 
> > > >     /* hard ref */
> > > >     bool bdrv_hard_{ref,unref}(bs)
> > > > 
> > > > usage:
> > > >     bs = bdrv_new()
> > > >     <implicit bdrv_ref(bs) called>
> > > >     ...
> > > >     bdrv_unref(bs)
> > > >     <automatically deleted here>
> > > > 
> > > > or with hard ref:
> > > >     bs = bdrv_new()
> > > >     <implicit bdrv_ref() called>
> > > > 
> > > >     bdrv_hard_ref(bs)
> > > >     ...
> > > >     bdrv_hard_unref(bs)
> > > > 
> > > >     bdrv_unref(bs)
> > > >     <automatically deleted here>
> > > > 
> > > > The second bdrv_hard_ref call to a bs returns false, caller check the
> > > > return value.
> > > 
> > > Why is hard ref necessary when we already have
> > > bdrv_in_use()/bdrv_set_in_use()?
> > 
> > Keeping the names of bdrv_in_use() and bdrv_set_in_use() is noting
> > wrong, if no more than one "hard ref" is enforced. However I think we
> > should manage lifecycle with both bdrv_ref and bdrv_set_in_use, so name
> > them both ref sounds consistent: make it clearer to caller both hard ref
> > (in_use) and soft ref preserve the bs from being released.
> 
> I actually find "hard"/"soft" ref naming confusing and prefer keeping
> bdrv_in_use().  Refcount is for object lifetime whereas in_use is for
> "busy" status.
> 
OK, do you suggest keeping in_use as is and call bdrv_delete(bs) in
bdrv_unref() regardless of bs->in_use?

-- 
Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-24  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-17  9:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18  4:53     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:36   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-23 10:32     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 13:34       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24  0:39         ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-24  7:35           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24  7:44             ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2013-07-25  7:52               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/11] block: use refcnt for bs->backing_hd and bs->file Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/11] block: use refcnt for drive_init/drive_uninit Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/11] block: use refcnt for device attach/detach Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/11] migration: omit drive ref as we have bdrv_ref now Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/11] xen_disk: simplify blk_disconnect with refcnt Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/11] block: hold hard reference for backup/mirror target Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25  6:08     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-25  7:59       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/11] block: simplify bdrv_drop_intermediate Fam Zheng
2013-07-24 23:16   ` Jeff Cody
2013-07-25  1:34     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/11] block: add assertion to check refcount before deleting Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/11] block: add option 'backing' to -drive options Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 12:58     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 13:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 13:48         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 14:16           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:09             ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:23               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-23 20:07               ` Ian Main
2013-07-22  6:07     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 19:57       ` Ian Main
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/11] qmp: add command 'blockdev-backup' Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:44   ` Eric Blake
2013-07-18  4:41     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-19 10:16       ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23 10:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-19 10:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23  1:52   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23  6:35     ` Paolo Bonzini

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