From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755874Ab3G2OLo (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from tex.lwn.net ([70.33.254.29]:52408 "EHLO vena.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751494Ab3G2OLn convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:11:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:11:41 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Jiri Kosina , Samuel Ortiz , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, LKML Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] DT, maintainership, development process Message-ID: <20130729081141.00818596@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <7008541.g5m1pJPVp1@vostro.rjw.lan> References: <20130729102452.GA2682@zurbaran> <7008541.g5m1pJPVp1@vostro.rjw.lan> Organization: LWN.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:10:33 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" wrote: > That actually is simple enough. > > Check out the Linus' master branch and do > > $ git log --ancestry-path --merges .. So I picked a recent, single-signoff patch mostly at random: 8ade62857ef77bdf639185410fbcd811aa700cb2 That "git log" command gives me 156 intervening commits involving at least a dozen networking trees, along with virtio, parisc, blackfin, x86, ... Even if one stops looking at the first merge performed by Linus, that's 47 to look at. Did that patch really pass through all those peoples' hands? Plus, of course, this assumes there's no fast-forward merges in the mix. >>From your other message: > And what about trusting maintainers? If Linus trusts them enough to pull from > them, why can't everybody else trust them enough to assume that they don't do > bad things on purpose? I hope you're not reading such thoughts into what *I* wrote. But most anybody who works on code occasionally does bad things by mistake, that's why we have a review process. jon