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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Kaveh Razavi <kaveh@cs.vu.nl>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Introduce cache images for the QCOW2 format
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:52:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130814115248.GA22291@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520B69D5.3070505@cs.vu.nl>

On Wed, 08/14 13:28, Kaveh Razavi wrote:
> On 08/14/2013 12:53 AM, Alex Bligh wrote:
> > What is this cache keyed on and how is it invalidated? Let's say a
> > 2 VM on node X boot with backing file A. The first populates the cache,
> > and the second utilises the cache. I then stop both VMs, delete
> > the derived disks, and change the contents of the backing file. I then
> > boot a VM using the changed backing file on node X and node Y. I think
> > node Y is going to get the clean backing file. However, how does node
> > X know not to use the cache? Would it not be a good idea to check
> > (at least) the inode number and the mtime of the backing file correspond
> > with values saved in the cache, and if not the same then ignore the
> > cache?
> 
> You could argue the same for normal qcow2. Start from a cow image with a
> backing image, stop the VM. Start another VM, modifying the backing
> image directly. Start the VM again, this time from the cow image, and
> the VM can see stale data in the stored data clusters of the cow image.
> 
> The idea is once a user registers an image to a cloud middleware, it is
> assigned an image ID. As long as the middleware assigns a cache to the
> backing image with the same ID, there is no possibility to read stale
> data. If it is desired to have some sort of check at the qemu level, it
> should be implemented in the qcow2 directly for all backing files and
> this extension will benefit from it too.
> 
Yes, this one sounds good to have. VMDK and VHDX have this kind of
backing file status validation.

Thanks.

Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-13 17:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Introduce cache images for the QCOW2 format Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-13 21:37 ` Eric Blake
2013-08-14 11:13   ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-13 22:53 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 11:28   ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-14 11:52     ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2013-08-14 12:03       ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 15:58         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-15  0:53         ` Fam Zheng
2013-08-15  5:51           ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 11:57     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 13:37       ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-13 23:16 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 11:42   ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-14 12:02     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 13:43       ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-14 13:50         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 14:26           ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-14 15:02             ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-14 15:32             ` Kevin Wolf
2013-08-15  7:50               ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-15  8:11               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-14  9:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-14 14:20   ` Kaveh Razavi
2013-08-15  8:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-15 12:25       ` Kaveh Razavi

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