From: greg@kroah.com (Greg KH)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ARM ATTEND] Trustzone-based security solution for ARM Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:28:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130815042812.GA8968@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xnivwNW_Pvhv7Jg62a94d5FChwqEwnNX3Miqd5fAxNHA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:44:30AM +0800, Barry Song wrote:
> For the moment, there is strong markting requirement from
> IVI(In-Vehicle Infotainment) or mobile to use ARM Trustzone. We take
> IVI as an example, Auto requires security enviorment to access CAN bus
> and other car busses. Auto requires security enviorment to show
> rearview/surround view from cameras and play alert audio. on the other
> hand, IVI system is generically working as a video streaming sink and
> HDMI sink instead of a source. To support HDCP and widevine, we need
> to make sure private keys and video buffers are only visible to
> security mode. With CAN stack, video playback backend and more tasks,
> generically it requires a multi-task RTOS running in security mode
> parallel with Linux in non-security mode.
>
> Linux is a generic purpose OS with UI and all kinds of software, but
> we need to make sure even the Linux is ROOTed, RTOS in security mode
> is still active. We are able to find some opensource projects like
> SafeG[1], Multivisor[2], SierraVisor[3], but it turns out that ARM
> Linux has no rich support for this kind of architecture:
> 1. hypervisor running in monitor mode
> 2. RTOS running in security mode
> 3. Linux running in non-security mode
"Linux" is just a kernel, not a whole operating system :)
Anyway, why can't Linux be the RTOS kernel as well? What are the
requirements for that kernel that Linux does not currently meet?
> So the point is that we need generic support for this, especially for
> IVI and other markets which want Trustzone technology a lot and have
> complex user scenarios.
> 1. Dispatch FIQ to security, dispatch IRQ to Linux, for this case, FIQ
> is not permitted to happen on Linux
Isn't that up to the hardware? Nothing that Linux can do about that.
> 2. IPC support for communication between RTOS in security mode and
> Linux in non-security mode, as we need to communicate rich commands
> and buffers
What about using the virtual protocols we already have today for the
existing hypervisors? Don't reinvent something new if you don't have
to.
> 3. as some CPU time is stolen by security mode, so the scheduler need
> to get this for load balance
Does the kernel know this time is gone? Or is it not aware of it (like
MSIs on x86?)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-15 4:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-15 3:44 [ARM ATTEND] Trustzone-based security solution for ARM Linux Barry Song
2013-08-15 4:28 ` Greg KH [this message]
2013-08-15 5:14 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Jassi Brar
2013-08-15 7:45 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 8:05 ` Greg KH
2013-08-15 8:22 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 16:01 ` Greg KH
2013-08-16 2:08 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 8:24 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2013-08-15 15:56 ` Greg KH
2013-08-15 17:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2013-08-15 18:26 ` Greg KH
2013-08-15 18:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-15 18:44 ` Greg KH
2013-08-15 8:17 ` Jassi Brar
2013-08-15 8:36 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 7:36 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 16:03 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-15 17:43 ` Dave Martin
2013-08-16 2:39 ` Barry Song
2013-08-16 11:14 ` Dave Martin
2013-08-16 11:17 ` Jassi Brar
2013-08-19 23:31 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 9:05 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 7:57 ` Ben Dooks
2013-08-15 8:06 ` Barry Song
2013-08-15 14:08 ` Dave Martin
2013-08-16 2:49 ` Barry Song
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2013-08-19 23:13 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Barry Song
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