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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brad Spengler <spender@grsecurity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vfs: Tighten up linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:53:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130822185317.GI31117@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzXNU-eJ7KeZyv5YYKKtm8iorG-o3QtD7NXx0GTzuH+Bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:48:10AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >
> > So let's be careful for now: only allow linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH)
> > if the target is I_LINKABLE.
> 
> So I really detest this just because it's such a special case. Now
> this is only useful for that one special case, and the thing very
> fundamentally checks that one special case in a place that is
> impossible to check for the /proc case, so the proc case remains
> totally separate.
> 
> Which just bothers me.
> 
> I think we could easily at least allow the "file->f_creds ==
> current->creds" case (and yes, I literally mean comparing the pointers
> - not only is it cheaper, but it literally means "nothing odd has
> happened in between opening and the lookup").
> 
> And I'm wondering if we shouldn't actually do that at "path_init"
> time. Right now the code says:
> 
>                 /* Caller must check execute permissions on the
> starting path component */
>                 struct fd f = fdget_raw(dfd);
> 
> and then uses the struct file mindlessly.
> 
> I'm wondering if we should just do some validation in that place, and say:
> 
>  - for directories, we require exec permissions here
>  - for everything else, we require that f->f_cred == current->cred check.
> 
> I dunno. But that I_LINKABLE thing just bothers me. It screams "I'm
> hacky" to me.

I agreed, simply because the condition here is different from the one in /proc.

I have read some code last evening to try to understand how /proc/pid/fd
entries were granted access to various processes, because I would love to
see the same condition being used in both places. Unfortunately, it's beyond
my skills, and I stopped after my random attempts gave me some panics.

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-22 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21 19:14 [PATCH v2] vfs: Tighten up linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH) Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <CA+55aFxi-ps2f2M8xPhfbuQ0pToqupPrDsLi2+GPUK2sqdYfUw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CALCETrW7+LcexA6v6RQDKhni_yJAduOmiSDneCpq3v8sPDvwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-21 20:16     ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-22 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 18:53   ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2013-08-22 19:05     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:10         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:15           ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-22 20:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:44               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:48                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:58                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-23  1:07                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  3:37                       ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  7:26                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-25 14:23                           ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 17:04                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-25 19:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 20:06                           ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 20:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 17:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 18:07                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 18:11                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 19:16                                   ` [RFC PATCH] fs: Add user_file_or_path_at and use it for truncate Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 19:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 20:28                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-28  6:16                                         ` Al Viro
2013-08-28 16:24                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-28 19:04                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-28 19:59                                             ` Al Viro
2013-08-28 21:07                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 23:08                                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-27 23:13                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-24 18:29             ` /proc/pid/fd && anon_inode_fops Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-24 21:24               ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-25  5:23                 ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  6:50                   ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-25 18:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 20:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 15:33                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 16:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 17:54                               ` [PATCH] proc: make proc_fd_permission() thread-friendly Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 19:35                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 20:20                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-27 15:05                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 14:39                                     ` [PATCH 0/1] proc: make /proc/self point to thread Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 14:40                                       ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 16:39                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 17:49                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 18:15                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 18:28                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <CALCETrXP-mYBPRon=0NzexW1FK1Qxz2+Bwv7-WeHBQpvW7ywRg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-27 15:45                                       ` [PATCH] proc: make proc_fd_permission() thread-friendly Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:32                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-26 18:46                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:56                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 19:10                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-27 14:53                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 18:32                   ` /proc/pid/fd && anon_inode_fops Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 19:11                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 19:17                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-03 15:58                     ` Pavel Machek
2013-08-25 15:45                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]               ` <20130825051044.GY27005@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                 ` <20130825155348.GB25922@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrXrtP2C+g=QeNWK4EMctmonW91kWoO1xmy7rDmEj__1Dw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20130825174936.GA30957@redhat.com>
2013-08-25 17:55                       ` [PATCH 0/1] anon_inodefs: forbid open via /proc Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 17:55                         ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-22 19:39       ` [PATCH v2] vfs: Tighten up linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH) Willy Tarreau

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