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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid useless inodes and dentries reclamation
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:56:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130830015654.GU12779@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <521F949A.2020908@intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:36:10AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> The new shrinker infrastructure in mmotm looks like it will make this
> problem worse.
> 
> old code:
> shrink_slab()
> 	for_each_shrinker {
> 		do_shrinker_shrink(); // one per batch
> 			prune_super()
> 				grab_super_passive()
> 	}
> }

I think you've simplified it down too far. The current code does:

	for_each_shrinker {
		max_pass = do_shrinker_shrink(0);
		// ^^ does grab_super_passive()

		while(total_scan >= batch_size) {
			do_shrinker_shrink(0)
			// ^^ does grab_super_passive()
			do_shrinker_shrink(batch_size)
			// ^^ does grab_super_passive()
		}
	}

> Which means we've got at _most_ one grab_super_passive() per batch.

No, there's two. one count, one scan per batch.

> The new code is something like this:
>
> shrink_slab()
> {
> 	list_for_each_entry(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
>                 for_each_node_mask(... shrinkctl->nodes_to_scan) {
> 			shrink_slab_node()
> 		}
> 	}
> }

Right, but what you are missing here is that the nodemask passed in
to shrink_slab() only has a single node bit set during reclaim -
the bit that matches the zone being reclaimed from.

drop_slab(), OTOH, does:

	nodes_setall(shrink.nodes_to_scan);

before calling shrink_slab in a loopi because it's trying to free
*everything*, and that's why the shrink_slab() code handles that
case.

> shrink_slab_node()
> {
>         max_pass = shrinker->count_objects(shrinker, shrinkctl);
> 	// ^^ does grab_super_passive()
> 	...
> 	while (total_scan >= batch_size) {
> 		ret = shrinker->scan_objects(shrinker, shrinkctl);
> 		// ^^ does grab_super_passive()
> 	}
> }
> 
> We've got an extra grab_super_passive()s in the case where we are
> actually doing a scan, plus we've got the extra for_each_node_mask()
> loop.  That means even more lock acquisitions in the multi-node NUMA
> case, which is exactly where we want to get rid of global lock acquisitions.

I disagree.  With direct memory reclaim, we have an identical number
of calls to shrink_slab() occurring, and each target a single node.
hence there is typically a 1:1 call ratio for
shrink_slab:shrink_slab_node. An because shrink_slab_node() has one
less callout per batch iteration, there is an overall reduction in
the number of grab_super_passive calls from the shrinker. Worst case
is no change, best case is a 50% reduction in the number of calls.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-30  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-28 21:52 [PATCH] Avoid useless inodes and dentries reclamation Tim Chen
2013-08-28 21:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-08-28 22:54   ` Tim Chen
2013-08-29 11:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-29 18:07   ` Tim Chen
2013-08-29 18:36     ` Dave Hansen
2013-08-30  1:56       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-08-30  1:40     ` Dave Chinner
2013-08-30 16:21       ` Tim Chen
2013-08-31  9:00         ` Dave Chinner
2013-09-03 18:38           ` Tim Chen
2013-09-06  0:55             ` Dave Chinner
2013-09-06 18:26               ` Tim Chen

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