From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot?
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:17:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130917061740.19eb3a66@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130916200420.GF3293@free.fr>
Dear Yann E. MORIN,
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:04:20 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> Also, I would like to reiterate my suggestion the vriable BR2_EXTERNAL
> contains a list (space- or colon-sperated, as you wish) of external
> trees to descend into, rather than containing a single entry.
Unfortunately, I don't think this is easy to do. Have you seen how the
BR2_EXTERNAL/Config.in gets included in the top-level menu? The way
we're doing this in the current implementation doesn't make it easy to
have several paths in BR2_EXTERNAL.
> A side question to this: what if any of the external tree(s) contain a
> package already in a previous external tree or in the original
> Buildroot tree?
I don't think we want to support overlay-ing packages.
> > But it isn't quite sufficient: by your definition, the
> > Buildroot .config should also be shipped, and it also contains
> > config options for the company-specific proprietary packages. So
> > the .config should be "filtered" before being released. Not simple.
>
> I think that is relatively easy: in the Buildroot tree, just run:
> make BR2_EXTERNAL= oldconfig
>
> That will expunge the .config from any variable from the BR2_EXTERNAL
> tree. You can then tar up the Buildroot tree, and make that available.
> Quite easy, but requires a process that documents this simple extra
> step prior to publication.
Hum, right, makes sense.
> > Aren't companies going to be afraid of revealing too much of their
> > secret sauce if they have to disclose their Buildroot tree?
>
> Depends on what you call "their secret sauce". If you meant "their
> prorietary apps packaged in Buildroot" then, curently, yes, since
> those would be in the Buildroot tree. But with BR2_EXTERNAL (and the
> little oldconfig trick above), that'd be straightforward.
>
> If you meant "the fact that they actually use Buildroot", then I don;t
> think how this could be seen as a "secret sauce".
I was talking about their proprietary apps / rootfs overlay, etc. Which
indeed with BR2_EXTERNAL they can keep separate.
> > If it's considered as a derived work, then your above idea of using
> > BR2_EXTERNAL to split things between secret stuff and released
> > stuff no longer works.
>
> Well, yes it still stands. The GPL only applies at the time of
> distribution. So if BR2_EXTERNAL only contains recipes for
> weak-copyleft or non-copyleft packages,
Yes, and this *if* is very important.
> then there is no need for the
> company to distribute it, since the "official" Buildroot tree is
> enough to reproduce the GPL program(s) on the target.
>
> This applies, of course, only if the company decides to publish
> Buildroot to catter for section 3 of the GPL of those programs.
>
> If the company decides for another route, then this point is moot
> anyway, since there is no distribution at all.
Sure.
Thomas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-17 4:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:06 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:03 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 5:29 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:07 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 3:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 6:43 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13 7:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 7:47 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
[not found] ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53 ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:09 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 6:53 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 7:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 7:54 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21 ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 1:50 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18 7:22 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19 0:25 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:24 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17 4:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2013-09-16 19:50 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18 1:52 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17 4:44 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 7:35 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 5:00 ` Baruch Siach
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