From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@au1.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC GIT PULL] softirq: Consolidation and stack overrun fix
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:47:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130921074726.GA7771@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyBcjP2U6ipzZay=FdhzA4oFNwE4tU0OcJJhwFvgoeALw@mail.gmail.com>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now just for clarity, what do we then do with inline sofirq
> > executions: on local_bh_enable() for example, or explicit calls to
> > do_softirq() other than irq exit?
>
> If we do a softirq because it was pending and we did a
> "local_bh_enable()" in normal code, we need a new stack. The
> "local_bh_enable()" may be pretty deep in the callchain on a normal
> process stack, so I think it would be safest to switch to a separate
> stack for softirq handling.
>
> So you have a few different cases:
>
> - irq_exit(). The irq stack is by definition empty (assuming itq_exit()
> is done on the irq stack), so doing softirq in that context should be
> fine. However, that assumes that if we get *another* interrupt, then
> we'll switch stacks again, so this does mean that we need two irq
> stacks. No, irq's don't nest, but if we run softirq on the first irq
> stack, the other irq *can* nest that softirq.
>
> - process context doing local_bh_enable, and a bh became pending while
> it was disabled. See above: this needs a stack switch. Which stack to
> use is open, again assuming that a hardirq coming in will switch to yet
> another stack.
>
> Hmm?
I'd definitely argue in favor of never letting unknown-size stacks nest
(i.e. to always switch if we start a new context on top of a non-trivial
stack).
Known (small) size stack nesting is not real stack nesting, it's just a
somewhat unusual (and faster) way of stack switching.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-21 7:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-19 19:51 [RFC GIT PULL] softirq: Consolidation and stack overrun fix Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-19 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] irq: Consolidate do_softirq() arch overriden implementations Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-19 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] irq: Execute softirq on its own stack on irq exit Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-19 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] irq: Comment on the use of inline stack for ksoftirqd Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-20 0:02 ` [RFC GIT PULL] softirq: Consolidation and stack overrun fix Linus Torvalds
2013-09-20 1:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-20 11:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-20 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-21 0:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-20 16:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-20 17:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-20 18:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-20 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-21 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-09-21 18:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-21 21:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-21 23:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-22 2:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-22 4:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-22 4:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-22 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-22 17:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-22 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-22 21:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-22 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-22 22:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 4:35 ` [PATCH] powerpc/irq: Run softirqs off the top of the irq stack Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 7:56 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-23 7:56 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-23 10:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 10:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-23 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-23 20:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 20:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 5:42 ` [PATCH v2] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 5:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 17:59 ` [RFC GIT PULL] softirq: Consolidation and stack overrun fix Chris Metcalf
2013-09-23 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 19:27 ` Chris Metcalf
2013-09-24 20:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 1:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-24 1:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-24 8:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-24 9:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 4:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-23 5:01 ` David Miller
2013-09-24 2:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-24 4:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-24 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-24 20:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-25 8:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-21 0:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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