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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Matthew R Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:25:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131001082547.GB21793@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131001080921.GL3081@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 09:28:15AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > That I mostly agree with, except that without a serious usecase do we 
> > have a guarantee that bugs in fancies queueing in rwsems gets ironed 
> > out?
> 
> Methinks mmap_sem is still a big enough lock to work out a locking 
> primitive :-)

I mean the AIM7 usecase probably falls away - we need to find another one 
that shows the inefficiencies.

> In fact, try something like this from userspace:
> 
> n-threads:
> 
>   pthread_mutex_lock(&mutex);
>   foo = mmap();
>   pthread_mutex_lock(&mutex);
> 
>   /* work */
> 
>   pthread_mutex_unlock(&mutex);
>   munma(foo);
>   pthread_mutex_unlock(&mutex);
> 
> vs
> 
> n-threads:
> 
>   foo = mmap();
>   /* work */
>   munmap(foo);
> 
> 
> I've had reports that the former was significantly faster than the
> latter.

That looks like a legitimate pattern that ought to trigger in many apps. 
Would be nice to turn this into a:

	perf bench mm thread-create

testcase or so.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-01  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-27 19:00 [PATCH] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path Waiman Long
2013-09-27 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-27 19:39   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-27 21:49     ` Tim Chen
2013-09-28  6:45       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28  7:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:13       ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-28 19:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:39           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 10:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 16:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 16:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  7:28                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01  8:09                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  8:25                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-09-30 15:58           ` Waiman Long
2013-10-01  7:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01 20:03               ` Waiman Long
2013-09-28 19:37         ` [PATCH] anon_vmas: Convert the rwsem to an rwlock_t Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:46             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:52             ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 11:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 11:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 17:03               ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-30 17:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 17:10               ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 18:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 19:23                   ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 19:35                     ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30 19:47                       ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 22:03                         ` Tim Chen
2013-10-01  2:41                         ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30  8:52           ` [PATCH] " Andrea Arcangeli
2013-09-30 14:40             ` Jerome Glisse
2013-09-30 16:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 19:16               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-09-30 18:21             ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-30 19:04               ` Jerome Glisse
2013-09-29 23:06       ` [PATCH] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-29 23:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30  0:40           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-30  0:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30  6:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30  1:11       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-09-30  7:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 16:03           ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30 10:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  7:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01  8:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-27 19:32 ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-28  0:46   ` Waiman Long

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