From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform device
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:43:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131002184330.GC5108@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1380738758.12932.43.camel@snotra.buserror.net>
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 01:32:38PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 13:25 -0500, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christoffer Dall [mailto:christoffer.dall@linaro.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:14 AM
> > > To: Alex Williamson
> > > Cc: Kim Phillips; gregkh@linuxfoundation.org; linux-
> > > kernel@vger.kernel.org; a.motakis@virtualopensystems.com; agraf@suse.de;
> > > Yoder Stuart-B08248; Wood Scott-B07421; Sethi Varun-B16395; Bhushan
> > > Bharat-R65777; peter.maydell@linaro.org; santosh.shukla@linaro.org;
> > > kvm@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform
> > > device
> > >
> > > Wouldn't a sysfs file to add compatibility strings to the vfio-platform
> > > driver make driver_match_device return true and make everyone happy?
> >
> > I had a similar thought. Why can't we do something like:
> >
> > echo "fsl,i2c" > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/vfio-platform/new_compatible
> > echo 12ce0000.i2c > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/vfio-platform/bind
> >
> > The first steps tell vfio-platform to register itself to handle
> > "fsl,i2c" compatible devices. The second step does the bind.
>
> Needing to specify the compatible is hacky (we already know what device
> we want to bind; why do we need to scrounge up more information than
> that, and add a new sysfs interface for extending compatible matches,
> and a more flexible data structure to back that up?), and is racy on
> buses that can hotplug (which driver gets the new device?).
Why hacky? It seems quite reasonable to me that the user has to tell a
subsystem that from a certain point it should be capable of handling
some device.
As for the data structure, isn't this a simple linked list?
The problem with the race seems to be a common problem that hasn't even
been solved for PCI yet, so I'm wondering if this is not an orthogonal
issue with a separate solution, such as a priority or something like
that.
Yes, once you've added the new_compatible to the vfio-platform driver,
it's up for grabs from both the new and the old driver, but that could
be solved by always making sure that the vfio-platform driver is checked
first.
(I'm not familiar with these data structures, but I would imagine
something like re-inserting the vfio-platform driver in the
list/tree/... whenever adding a new_compatible value might possibly be
one solution).
>
> What's wrong with a non-vfio-specific flag that a driver can set, that
> indicates that the driver is willing to try to bind to any device on the
> bus if explicitly requested via the existing sysfs bind mechanism?
>
It sounds more hackish to me to invent some 'generic' flag to solve a
very specific case. What you're suggesting would let users specify that
a serial driver should handle a NIC hardware, no? That sounds much much
worse to me.
-Christoffer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-02 18:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-01 18:38 RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform device Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 19:15 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 22:01 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 21:59 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 22:44 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 20:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-10-01 22:02 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-02 1:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 2:35 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-02 15:14 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 15:29 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-02 18:25 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-02 18:32 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 18:43 ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2013-10-02 20:04 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-02 20:13 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:19 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 20:14 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 20:27 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:39 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 20:44 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:37 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 20:42 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 21:08 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 21:16 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 21:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 23:40 ` gregkh
2013-10-03 18:33 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-03 18:54 ` gregkh
2013-10-03 19:11 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-03 20:32 ` gregkh
2013-10-09 19:02 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-09 19:16 ` gregkh
2013-10-09 19:49 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-09 19:21 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-09 19:44 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-09 19:44 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-09 20:03 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-10 3:05 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-10 8:01 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 15:27 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] driver core: Add new device_driver flag to allow binding via sysfs only Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] driver core: platform: allow platform drivers to bind to any device Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] VFIO: pci: amend vfio-pci for explicit binding via sysfs only Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 20:43 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-11 23:17 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-14 13:01 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-14 17:13 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-24 11:32 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-28 17:47 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-28 18:00 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-28 18:09 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 3:38 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 3:38 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 3:40 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 3:52 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 3:52 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:29 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 4:31 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:31 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 4:45 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:45 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:54 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 6:39 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 6:39 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH] VFIO: platform: allow the driver to bind to any device explicitly via sysfs Kim Phillips
2013-10-10 7:45 ` RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform device Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 7:45 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 13:43 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-10 13:43 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-10 15:23 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-10 15:25 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 15:25 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
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