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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/14] sched: make dl_bw a sub-quota of rt_bw
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:25:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131015122522.GB2402@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131015102621.GE10651@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:00:20PM +0200, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 10/14/2013 04:06 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > >> +		struct dl_bw *dl_b = &cpu_rq(i)->rd->dl_bw;
> > >> +#else
> > >> +		struct dl_bw *dl_b = &cpu_rq(i)->dl.dl_bw;
> > >> +#endif
> > > 
> > >> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > >> +		struct dl_bw *dl_b = &cpu_rq(i)->rd->dl_bw;
> > >> +#else
> > >> +		struct dl_bw *dl_b = &cpu_rq(i)->dl.dl_bw;
> > >> +#endif
> > > 
> > > Btw., this kind of SMP/UP assymetry pattern really sucks. Why not make UP 
> > > use the SMP data structure, even if it's degenerate?
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, I don't like it either, but that comes from the fact that it seemed to me
> > that, semantically, bandwidth for -deadline tasks has to be associated to the
> > single runqueue in UP and to the root_domain for SMP. In UP root_domain is
> > compiled out, so I'm not sure to understand what you suggest. I could probably
> > let dl_bw live on runqueues with the assumption that all the runqueues from the
> > same root_domain have the same dl_bw, that represents the dl_bw of the
> > root_domain. But I don't like this replication either :(.
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> 
> static inline struct dl_bw *dl_bw_of(int i)
> {
> 	return &cpu_rq(i)->rd->dl_bw;
> }
> 
> #else
> 
> static inline struct dl_bw *dl_bw_of(int i)
> {
> 	return &cpu_rq(i)->dl.dl_bw;
> }
> 
> #endif
> 
> ?

Really, please make it _symmetric_ ...

Single core systems are becoming a historic curiosity, should we should 
justify every piece of extra complexity we add for them.

So I'd rather see obvious SMP code where the UP case works fine too, and 
_then_ maybe check a separate patch that adds the UP optimization, with 
(object size) numbers proving that it's worth it, etc.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-15 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-14 10:43 [PATCH 00/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v8 Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 01/14] sched: add sched_class->task_dead Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 02/14] sched: add extended scheduling interface Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 03/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE structures & implementation Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 11:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 13:05     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 13:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 11:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 14:36     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 16:16     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 16:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 11:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 16:58     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 17:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 20:48         ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 11:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 20:36     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 11:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 21:26     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 04/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE SMP-related data structures & logic Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15  9:36     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-15 10:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 11:36         ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-17 16:49         ` [tip:sched/core] sched/rt: Add missing rmb() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 05/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE avg_update accounting Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 06/14] sched: add period support for -deadline tasks Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 12:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15  8:23     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-15  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 07/14] sched: add schedstats " Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 12:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15  9:06     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 08/14] sched: add latency tracing " Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 09/14] rtmutex: turn the plist into an rb-tree Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 10/14] sched: drafted deadline inheritance logic Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 11/14] sched: add bandwidth management for sched_dl Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 12/14] sched: make dl_bw a sub-quota of rt_bw Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 14:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 10:00     ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-15 10:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 11:35         ` Juri Lelli
2013-10-15 12:25         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-15 12:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 13:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-16  8:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-16  9:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 13/14] sched: speed up -dl pushes with a push-heap Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:43 ` [PATCH 14/14] sched: add sched_dl documentation Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 10:53 ` [PATCH 00/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v8 Juri Lelli
2013-10-14 12:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 12:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-14 13:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-14 13:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-14 13:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-11-07 13:43 [PATCH 00/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v9 Juri Lelli
2013-11-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 12/14] sched: make dl_bw a sub-quota of rt_bw Juri Lelli
2013-02-11 18:50 [PATCH 00/14] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v7 Juri Lelli
2013-02-11 18:50 ` [PATCH 12/14] sched: make dl_bw a sub-quota of rt_bw Juri Lelli

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