From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, aliguori@amazon.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, lersek@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] smbios: Set system manufacturer, product & version by default
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:12:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131030191240.GA7330@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761se7r1k.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:48:55PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:56:40PM +0100, armbru@redhat.com wrote:
> >> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> >>
> >> Currently, we get SeaBIOS defaults: manufacturer Bochs, product Bochs,
> >> no version. Best SeaBIOS can do, but we can provide better defaults:
> >> manufacturer QEMU, product & version taken from QEMUMachine desc and
> >> name.
> >>
> >> Take care to do this only for new machine types, of course.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> >
> > I feel applying this one would be a mistake.
> >
> > Machine desc is for human readers.
> > For example, it currently says "Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009)"
> > but if we add a variant with IDE compatibility mode we will likely want to
> > tweak it to say "Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9/AHCI mode, 2009)"
> > and add another one saying ""Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9/compat mode,
> > 2009)".
> >
> > In other words we want the ability to tweak
> > description retroactively, and exposing it to guest will
> > break this ability.
>
> These will be new machine types, won't they?
Description is there for humans, so we should be free to change
it to make it more readable for old types, too.
> > So we really need a new field not tied to the human description.
>
> The SMBIOS string is *also* for human readers.
>
> I can't see why we should jump through hoops *now* to separate the two.
> The values are the same. I don't expect us to change them for old
> machine types. But if we ever feel the need to change them in one place
> but not the other, nothing will prevent us from splitting them up then.
>
> Pay as you go, not pay as you fear you might have to go some day.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-30 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-30 12:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] smbios nicer defaults for DMI type 1 (System) armbru
2013-10-30 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] hw: Pass QEMUMachine to its init() method armbru
2013-10-30 13:13 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-10-30 13:38 ` Andreas Färber
2013-10-31 6:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] smbios: Set system manufacturer, product & version by default armbru
2013-10-30 13:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-10-30 14:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 14:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-10-30 14:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 15:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-30 19:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 20:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-30 23:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 5:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-31 9:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-10-30 14:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-30 19:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-10-31 5:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-31 6:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] smbios nicer defaults for DMI type 1 (System) Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/2] smbios: Decouple system product from QEMUMachine Markus Armbruster
2013-10-31 6:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 8:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-11-04 13:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] smbios nicer defaults for DMI type 1 (System) Michael S. Tsirkin
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